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single axle car trailer

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:17 pm
by ronoor
Image whats youre thoughts on this type of trailer for a sierra or would a tandem be better. cheers ron

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:19 pm
by ronoor
Imagefound these aswell . cheers ron

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:53 pm
by ajsr
it would be very sensitive to vehicle position and you may find the tow ball weight too much if the load was too far forward.
too far back and it would sway like a bitch.
Im not a big fan of single axle trailers that are carrying a large load and I think it would be fairly ugly if you had a blowout at speed.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:10 pm
by money_killer
for a serria u would think it would be fine. if i had a car trailer i would want to be able to tow anyones car pretty much ..

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:27 pm
by Dominator
I thought about the same thing but i decided on a tandem axle because they are heaps nicer to tow and when you consider where you will be towing (4wd parks etc. ie dirt roads) you want it to be as safe as possible.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:39 pm
by brad91
I think you would be better off with a tandem. Sierra would probably be the limit on one of those. And you would need a decent size 4wd to tow it unless you can get the load perfect.

My tandem tows great and i have had a fj40 on it without any problems

Just my opinion anyway

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:45 pm
by VR Rodeo
ajsr wrote:it would be very sensitive to vehicle position and you may find the tow ball weight too much if the load was too far forward.
too far back and it would sway like a bitch.
Im not a big fan of single axle trailers that are carrying a large load and I think it would be fairly ugly if you had a blowout at speed.
I flat tow like below and if I dont have it far enough forward I can't go over 80 odd for any length of time and down hills become very interesting very quickly :oops:
Image

So yer as said positioning would become important, but after a while I imagine you would find the sweet spot for your car on it so if you can get one cheap enough I would say go for it.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:28 pm
by droopypete
No good, unless you use an exotic axle set up, you are limited to 1000kg per axle, you will be hard pressed to find a sierra under 1200 kgs and you have to include the weight of the trailer in the total, that's why the hire tandem car trailers have a 1200kg to 1500kg limit, 2 axles 2000kg less the weight of the trailer.
If you really want to go single axle (and I think it is a bad idea) consider duel wheels and hubs from a Mazda easy loader or the imported Toyota equivalent (hard to find but much larger bearings and brakes)
the reason I think it is bad is the load spread, on a single axle trailer the entire load is supported at two points (each end of the springs) 6-700mm apart, with a tandem axle this is doubled spreading the support making the trailer much stronger.
Peter.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:22 am
by dad
VR Rodeo wrote: Image
I was contemplating building something similar, but with my CIG lockers,
i dont think it would turn very well...

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:02 am
by VR Rodeo
dad wrote: I was contemplating building something similar, but with my CIG lockers,
i dont think it would turn very well...
The previous owner used to tow a Surf buggy on it and he had a spool'd rear, the only time he had a problem was when he forgot to put oil in his diff :oops:
I just pump my tyres up to 40 odd psi and try to avoid tight turns and I havent mastered reversing around a corner yet, but mines a lockright rear.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:43 pm
by vitara guy
i think you would find that those traliers are made for golf buggies haif the weight of a modded zook

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:06 pm
by ronoor
Tandem it is then . Want to make it to just fit the sierra other wise every man and his dog asking to borrow your trailer . cheers ron

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:34 pm
by r0ck_m0nkey
droopypete wrote:you will be hard pressed to find a sierra under 1200 kgs
Not sure how you think a Sierra under 1200kg would be hard to find, considering they weigh less then that in standard form.

Mine was weighbridged at 1040kg earlier this year with a full tank of petrol. I am sure if i ditched all the bash plates, bar work and all the extra strengthning it would go under 1000kg without to many hassles.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:27 pm
by nicbeer
I know mines 1200kg over the bridge

VR - Is that Duncans old mobitow trailer?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:46 pm
by Turbo Tonka
my zook,tin top,31s front bar,sliders,exo,full size spare,full tank of fuel etc came in at 1220 over the bridge.

VR rodeo i like the way you tow your zook :cool: if you do get it positioned ok is 100km/h fine?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:07 pm
by mrRocky
my 1ltr stockman is 890kgs :armsup:

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:40 pm
by VR Rodeo
nicbeer wrote: VR - Is that Duncans old mobitow trailer?
Never actually saw Duncans one, he may have borrowed this one occassionally, but I know it was built for Zbeast and I bought it off him.
Turbo Tonka wrote: VR rodeo i like the way you tow your zook :cool: if you do get it positioned ok is 100km/h fine?
Yer I have got it sussed now and it sits on 100 nicely. It makes life so much easier, no more running around trying to hire a trailer for the weekend and then worrying about getting it back on time, plus it takes up around the same room as a 6x4. The only hassle was having to remove the rear driveshaft when towing, but I fixed that with a rear disconnect ;)

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:12 am
by JWB
VR Rodeo wrote:
nicbeer wrote: VR - Is that Duncans old mobitow trailer?
Never actually saw Duncans one, he may have borrowed this one occassionally, but I know it was built for Zbeast and I bought it off him.
Turbo Tonka wrote: VR rodeo i like the way you tow your zook :cool: if you do get it positioned ok is 100km/h fine?
Yer I have got it sussed now and it sits on 100 nicely. It makes life so much easier, no more running around trying to hire a trailer for the weekend and then worrying about getting it back on time, plus it takes up around the same room as a 6x4. The only hassle was having to remove the rear driveshaft when towing, but I fixed that with a rear disconnect ;)
Is there anything wrong with putting the rear on the trailer ??
Obviously you would need to secure the steering wheel straight!

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:22 am
by VR Rodeo
JWB wrote: Is there anything wrong with putting the rear on the trailer ??
Obviously you would need to secure the steering wheel straight!
I have never tryed it, but I dont see why not.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:37 pm
by droopypete
r0ck_m0nkey wrote:
Mine was weighbridged at 1040kg earlier this year with a full tank of petrol. I am sure if i ditched all the bash plates, bar work and all the extra strengthning it would go under 1000kg without to many hassles.
You either have a lot of rust or a dodgy weighbridge :lol:
1200 may have been a bit on the chubby side, but a zook need to be stripped bare to get close to 1000kg.
Peter.