Outer Limits 4x4 Board

just wondering how many of you guys out there.. particularly in Victoria.. are copping defective notices? and what for?

I got pinned two weeks back for mudflaps, flares and my little shitty tail lights. they didn't pick on my 35's, extended shackles, or any of my other stuff.. and iv heard of them trying to do stock luxys for having UHF aeriels??

I'm new on the roads (got my license on the 22nd of September, got pinned on the 27th ).. how much do the cops pick on us guys?

cheers all

Mudflaps and tyre coverage are the normal items to pick on.

However, depending on the officer, they may or may not tick the "RWC" box on the bottom of the form. This might make things much more complicated depending on what's been done to your car. The police aren't specialists- they'll go for the easy targets.

The obvious lesson is to keep your tyres covered, mudflaps in place, and lights up to scratch.

Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote:Mudflaps and tyre coverage are the normal items to pick on.

However, depending on the officer, they may or may not tick the "RWC" box on the bottom of the form. This might make things much more complicated depending on what's been done to your car. The police aren't specialists- they'll go for the easy targets.

The obvious lesson is to keep your tyres covered, mudflaps in place, and lights up to scratch.

Steve.

Mmm I got lucky and got the boxes "major" and "RWC needed" ticked but put it all back to stock and got it all sorted.. pain in the ass though and when I got pinned the stupid idiot didn't even notice that my front wheel was on a hardcore angle and grinding like crazy (completely collapsed wheel bearing)

so now with the wheels covered below the axle line.. flares out past the Tyres and ADR approved tail lights I should be as safe as i can get considering aye?

thanks for the input

andrew91 wrote:so now with the wheels covered below the axle line.. flares out past the Tyres and ADR approved tail lights I should be as safe as i can get considering aye?

get your car engineered for the mods, once they find out its engineered, they will leave you alone - provided you dont go around driving like a tool.

andrew91 wrote: I got pinned the stupid idiot didn't even notice that my front wheel was on a hardcore angle and grinding like crazy (completely collapsed wheel bearing)

The officer didn't need to notice anything in particular except the mudflaps- once RWC box is ticked the officer knows it's all going to get fixed anyway.

Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote:

andrew91 wrote: I got pinned the stupid idiot didn't even notice that my front wheel was on a hardcore angle and grinding like crazy (completely collapsed wheel bearing)

The officer didn't need to notice anything in particular except the mudflaps- once RWC box is ticked the officer knows it's all going to get fixed anyway.

Steve.

Im sorta wondering why you would drive a car with a completely collapsed wheelbearing.. chances of shit going really pearshaped is massive.

bogged wrote:

Gwagensteve wrote:

andrew91 wrote: I got pinned the stupid idiot didn't even notice that my front wheel was on a hardcore angle and grinding like crazy (completely collapsed wheel bearing)

The officer didn't need to notice anything in particular except the mudflaps- once RWC box is ticked the officer knows it's all going to get fixed anyway.

Steve.

Im sorta wondering why you would drive a car with a completely collapsed wheelbearing.. chances of shit going really pearshaped is massive.

was limping home from phillip island. it gave way through St Kilda and I needed to get home so whatta you do? how much are engineering certs worth roughly?

bogged wrote:

andrew91 wrote:so now with the wheels covered below the axle line.. flares out past the Tyres and ADR approved tail lights I should be as safe as i can get considering aye?

get your car engineered for the mods, once they find out its engineered, they will leave you alone - provided you dont go around driving like a tool.

haha in a 2.8l diesel? it's a bit hard to drive wrecklessly in one of those things...
I can run over shit though ... slowly... very slowly

I hear ya mate, they're just pricks somtimes, i got pinged on a long w/end for no mudflaps, tail light out and aftermarket steering wheel at a breath test in bonnie doon. EVERY 4x4 was being pulled over though even a well set up 105 series got done for mudflaps and too many lights what a load of crap i thought. I had to get the major rwc done was just a pain in the ass.

andrew91 wrote:

bogged wrote:provided you dont go around driving like a tool.

haha in a 2.8l diesel? it's a bit hard to drive wrecklessly in one of those things...

No it isn't, and it's a real worry when people with very limited driving skills/experience say stuff like that, especially when they drive a vehicle that doesn't sound particularly safe.

chimpboy wrote:

andrew91 wrote:

bogged wrote:provided you dont go around driving like a tool.

haha in a 2.8l diesel? it's a bit hard to drive wrecklessly in one of those things...

No it isn't, and it's a real worry when people with very limited driving skills/experience say stuff like that, especially when they drive a vehicle that doesn't sound particularly safe.

well you can't exactly be doing 180 down the freeway and whilst I don't claim to be michael schumacher I rekon iv got a little bit of driving experience behind me.. been through go karts, motor bikes and what not. held a level 2 speed race license for a good couple years.. not that any of that partiularly matters or means Jack all but just to put it in your mind before you assume that I can't drive for shit again..

anyhow so they only seem to pick on the obvious? my brother got unlucky in his rx7 a few years back and got pulled aside to a nicely set up bay where they had a mechanic that combed over absolutely everything and didn't miss a thing.. doesn't happen these days?

thanks for all your input, I'm guessing since there's nothing too obviously illegal that I shouldn't let them be behind me but I'm more or less as safe as I can get.. might peel off the "WARNING.. mud makes me horny" sticker though .. and maybe the damn p plates too!

cheers all

does anyone know the law with spotties? as in are roof mounted ones illegal, and do they need to be within a certain distance of the ground, how many etc?

andrew91 wrote:does anyone know the law with spotties? as in are roof mounted ones illegal, and do they need to be within a certain distance of the ground, how many etc?

They can't be mounted where they will interfere with forward vision of the driver. ie reflection off the bonnet into the eyes of the driver.

in qld from memory the roof spoties not allowed for road use only offroad use and have to be able to be turned on from outside the car or if you can turn them on from inside the car have to have the fuse or relay removed so you cant turn them on from inside. when you get pulled over. then that way it shouldn t matter how many you have on your roof because they technically don t work. other people might know something different

andrew91 wrote:does anyone know the law with spotties? as in are roof mounted ones illegal, and do they need to be within a certain distance of the ground, how many etc?

Just buy 2 good quality spotlights, and you wont need 1200 hanging off everywhere. Put some HID kits off ebay in them if you feel you need.

Barnsey wrote:

bogged wrote:

andrew91 wrote:does anyone know the law with spotties? as in are roof mounted ones illegal, and do they need to be within a certain distance of the ground, how many etc?

Just buy 2 good quality spotlights, and you wont need 1200 hanging off everywhere. Put some HID kits off ebay in them if you feel you need.

X infinity

Never seen the point in roof mounted spotties, unless they're the pivot type for hunting.

Makes driving at night off-road much nicer. But unless you do night drives all the time its not worth the effort.

no more htan 6 forward facing main beam lights, this includes your headlights, and if you have twin headlights like 80 series, and commodores them too.

as well as what RN said, so in cars with single type headlights 4 driving lights is the max, twin headlights; then its two.

two lightforce 240's with 55w HID's.. do you really need more?

andrew91 wrote: I'm new on the roads (got my license on the 22nd of September, got pinned on the 27th ).. how much do the cops pick on us guys?

cheers

andrew91 wrote: well you can't exactly be doing 180 down the freeway and whilst I don't claim to be michael schumacher I rekon iv got a little bit of driving experience behind me.. been through go karts, motor bikes and what not. held a level 2 speed race license for a good couple years.. not that any of that partiularly matters or means Jack all but just to put it in your mind before you assume that I can't drive for shit again..
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Sorry mate but it's this type of attitude that just plain sux. Regardless of your "motorsport" background you have less than 1 months experience driving on the road with other road users. You have ZERO experience, a racetrack is nothing like real life driving, regardless of your "experience" on track in whatever discipline.

The only way to get experience is through years of driving, there is a reason why the Police will pull you P platers up, yes you are an easy target but sometimes P platers don't learn any other way.

When i had this on the road (as is) i got pulled up and stickered for no rear mudflaps and a suspect lift.

you are lucky you didnt get done for having no bumper on the front, i got done about 18 months ago,
-bald front tyres, yeah i copped that one as they were
-no front bumper, again i didnt have a front bumper as id just taken the alloy bar off the front due to being bent and broken in a bingle only a week earlier
-loose battery clamp, which i tightened right there in front of the cop, but still pinged for it
-did not say a thing about rear having no mudflaps, i even asked him to check the back over for me, he said it all looked ok
so i got a bumper for the front, replaced tyres and got it all cleared
i guess how badly you get done depends on the level of knowledge of the person doing the check and their mood at the time, i was upfront and didnt give the copper any crap and he was not too bad

I was pulled up and defected in my little stock wrangler with little tyres for no rear mudflaps once

cheers

So how's your stopping distance with the 35s?

:/

I get my Ps tomorrow, and with my car as it looks, it's going to get me pulled over real quick I think.

It's pretty much stock, but it looks rough.
I can't afford to get another rwc done..

if you cant afford another rwc how can you even afford to drive it and maintain it

Well I can.. but I don't want to touch my savings right now.
I could if I absolutely had to.

chimpboy wrote:So how's your stopping distance with the 35s?

I have 36.8's on mine and really have to ask you WTF r u on about ???????

dirtyGQ wrote:

chimpboy wrote:So how's your stopping distance with the 35s?

I have 36.8's on mine and really have to ask you WTF r u on about ???????

do u rly?

Sorry, maybe I'm going all granddad these days but I find the attitude expressed here, the description of the vehicle and the behaviour fairly disturbing coming from a driver with no experience who obviously doesn't understand how lacking in experience and road skills he is.

The same vehicle in the possession of an experienced driver probably wouldn't be a concern, but this is. The vehicle was put back to stock just to pass RWC, the driver with all of a month of road experience thinks the police are stupid idiots... personally I would bet a hundred bucks on a prang within the next 12 months and all the hassles of a vehicle that's not covered by insurance.

Oh well, I guess maybe it's just me being an old fart again, please carry on as you were as if I hadn't said anything.

dirtyGQ wrote:

chimpboy wrote:So how's your stopping distance with the 35s?

I have 36.8's on mine and really have to ask you WTF r u on about ???????

HOws the stopping distance with your 36.8's that are worn to 36.33334879i294893789723874923874....

dirtyGQ wrote:

chimpboy wrote:So how's your stopping distance with the 35s?

I have 36.8's on mine and really have to ask you WTF r u on about ???????

Listen very carefully, I shall say zis only once.

(I'm presuming you're talking about a GQ, because of your username. If your vehicle is street legal with 36.8s, then none of this applies.)

In Queensland you CAN NOT engineer larger tyres on a production vehicle. (I am not talking about ICVs.)

If your 36.8" tyres are on a GQ they are not road legal in Queensland. They are more than 10% larger than the factory tyres, and have both increased the load on your brakes (increased polar moment of inertia of the tyres) and decreased the effectiveness of your brakes (reduced the ability of your brakes to apply a decelerating force.)

Barring exceptional circumstances, if you run into the rear of somebody else, you are automatically considered to be at fault. The bills will come to you.

If your insurance company notices your illegal tyres, which simple physics will prove have compromised your braking ability, it is easy for them to conclude that your defect was a significant contributor to the accident, and deny your claim. That will most likely place you in a world of pain.

I suspect that is WTF chimpboy is on about.

-Scott- wrote:Listen very carefully, I shall say zis only once..