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I'm currently looking a buying a 100 series 4.2 diesel. The car is 1998 live axle cruiser and has very low kms and is in immaculate condition. It's been turboed, intercooled and has heaps of other cool shit on it already. The gearbox was also replaced about 5,000 kms ago.

Are there any other inherrant problems or things I should be looking out for on these vehicles?

Being a Nissan driver, I know stuff all about land cruisers.

Mark the jump and never look back. I have a petrol 1998 100 series and love it. It has 265,000k's on the clock and still goes hard.

T_Diesel wrote:I'm currently looking a buying a 100 series 4.2 diesel. The car is 1998 live axle cruiser and has very low kms and is in immaculate condition. It's been turboed, intercooled and has heaps of other cool shit on it already. The gearbox was also replaced about 5,000 kms ago.

Are there any other inherrant problems or things I should be looking out for on these vehicles?

Being a Nissan driver, I know stuff all about land cruisers.

How manyK's

Why was the gearbox replaced?

have a read here http://www.lcool.org/forum

you will need to register but lots of great info.

as far as issues, if its not factory turbo diesel, they can have overheating issues, not all do but its reasonably common. there was no factory turbo diesel in the live axle 100series otherwise I would say consider looking for a factory turbo one.

If it is a GXL then that will be the last car you ever want! They are very nice to drive.

Well I got it two weeks ago, and haven't looked back. It goes like a rocket compared with the old 2.8 patrol. List of mods currently on it as follows:

* Side mouldings
* DTS turbo and intercooler kit
* Denco Boost Compensator kit
* 3” Stainless Steel Exhaust System
* Safari snorkel
* 6 x genuine Royal Mag wheels
* 6 x 285/75 R16 Cooper ST tyres
* Heavy duty springs 50mm lift, 88 series Koni shockers upgrade.
* Caster Kit and front axle reinforcement.
* ARB Deluxe winch bar
* ARB Side steps & rails
* Lightforce XGT spot lights & loom
* Kaymar Rear step twin pivot bar with twin wheel carriers and two spare wheels/tyres.
* Kaymar LH Jerry Can Holder
* LRA 150 lt fuel tank plus 95 litre standard tank
* Piranha dual battery set up (total 3 batteries) with Optima ‘Yellow top’ batteries plus 5 merit plugs around cabin
* ARB front and rear air lockers, two air compressors one under front seat which is connected to a 7 litre air tank under shelf behind drivers seat.
* Front and rear diff breather kit
* Autron AUS cruise control
* Tradesman Oval Roof rack
* GME TX3440 UHF radio and antenna
* Black Widow storage system BW1000 with fridge slide, twin floor, cargo barrier, rear tailgate cover, drawer extension table, jerry can holder
and wheel bin cover.
* Cobra Platinum car alarm and remote entry with water proof upgrade
* Window tint
* Dept of the Interior roof console
* Fire extinguisher
* 2 * ARB Paratus Front Seats
* Kenwood Double Din DDX 5034 multimedia unit, reversing camera and BT200 bluetooth unit with 4 x Clarion speakers in doors.
* Couplertec Electronic Rustproofing system
* Warn XDC 9,500 lb winch with water proof upgrade

I'm in the process of installing my old laptop into it so I can use Oziexplorer for navigation. Just waiting on some parts from hong kong. I'm also going to amp up the speakers and put a small sub woofer in the back somewhere.

Other than that, I haven't got much else I can do to it.

STIKA wrote:

T_Diesel wrote:I'm currently looking a buying a 100 series 4.2 diesel. The car is 1998 live axle cruiser and has very low kms and is in immaculate condition. It's been turboed, intercooled and has heaps of other cool shit on it already. The gearbox was also replaced about 5,000 kms ago.

Are there any other inherrant problems or things I should be looking out for on these vehicles?

Being a Nissan driver, I know stuff all about land cruisers.

How manyK's

Why was the gearbox replaced?

Prolly because someone fixed it before it was completly farked
200,000 ks is the limit for most bearings if you dont want to fix other bits as well

beinthemud wrote:

STIKA wrote:

T_Diesel wrote:I'm currently looking a buying a 100 series 4.2 diesel. The car is 1998 live axle cruiser and has very low kms and is in immaculate condition. It's been turboed, intercooled and has heaps of other cool shit on it already. The gearbox was also replaced about 5,000 kms ago.

Are there any other inherrant problems or things I should be looking out for on these vehicles?

Being a Nissan driver, I know stuff all about land cruisers.

How manyK's

Why was the gearbox replaced?

Prolly because someone fixed it before it was completly farked
200,000 ks is the limit for most bearings if you dont want to fix other bits as well

Correct. He replaced it because one of the bearing clusters in 3rd gear was rattling about. Replacement cost was comparative with rebuild so he replaced it.

most Gearboxes we had in our shop if had done under 200,000 just needed Bearings boxes over 250,000 needed more
Not a hard and fast rule just a generaly rule

Most Gearboxes we had in our shop if had done under 200,000 just needed Bearings, Boxes over 250,000 needed more
Not a hard and fast rule just a generaly rule

beinthemud wrote:Most Gearboxes we had in our shop if had done under 200,000 just needed Bearings, Boxes over 250,000 needed more
Not a hard and fast rule just a generaly rule

Would i be correct in saying most gearboxes wouldnt have the oil in them changed very often?

If i recall correctly, on newer falcons Ford state that gearbox oil never needs replacing. Does this sound right?

beinthemud wrote:Most Gearboxes we had in our shop if had done under 200,000 just needed Bearings, Boxes over 250,000 needed more
Not a hard and fast rule just a generaly rule

Bearings only good for 200,000 you say.
Bearing in truck gearboxs must be made of unobtianium.
I've driven trucks with 1,000.000ks on the clock with the origal gearbox.
The truck i drive at moment just had its 1st clutch replace at 650,000 and i thought that was pretty pore.

I'd say lack of oil change was the problem with the gearbox.

Sounds about standard for a toyota box in that model though. They do keep a few gearbox places in business ive heard. Doesnt mean anything in that car other than the original owner was actually keeping an eye on things.

Sounds like a nice truck, and well kept, is worth its weight in gold.

The gearbox in the HZJ105's is the R151F, same as TD Prado and Hilux, i.e. much lighter vehicles.

In the HZJ105, behind the 1HZ and particularly with aftermarket turbo, larger wheels, more weight, etc, etc they give trouble as they tend to be a little overstressed.

Barnsey wrote: The 105s at the mine I used to work at got a serious flogging 24/7 (1998 models cut down to twin cabs with trays) and none of the gearboxes failed, according to the LV fitter. But they were NA 1HZs more than likely de-tuned.

And if they were running in low range the torque loading is substantially less.

Yes, the 5 speed drops 3rd commonly in a hzj105, especially after turboing and adding accessories/towing weight. The box is thesame one behind turbo lux and prado, v6 4 runner....smooth shifting but not as solid as 80/100 petrol/t/d