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sierra tranfer issues

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:42 pm
by thehanko
hey peoples.

the car:
lwb ute with corrolla 1.6 and sprinter 5 speed into sierra 1.3 drivetrain.
its new to a mate and we have little background.

it was poping out of low range into neutral occasionally when 4wding prior to this.

The issue:
he cam home one day poped it into 4H to drive up onto my lawn in the wet. put it back into 2wd when parked.

Next day came out to drive it and no drive at all - and the range selector lever is jammed.

we have drive into the transfere case, but nothing out of the transfer case, seems the front output shaft seal has given way and leaked oil very recently. so im guessing something has seized but cant work out why it seized when not in use??? and why in a neutral/fasle neutral?

would it just be its cooled down and locked up?

sourcing a new tranfer for it, but just trying to understand whats happened to learn from it.

any ideas would be great.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:49 pm
by boost=money
pull the transfer leaver out and u will fined the bush under there is gone replace it think mine cost $27. i had the same thing last week no bush left. hope this helps

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:09 pm
by thehanko
boost=money wrote:pull the transfer leaver out and u will fined the bush under there is gone replace it think mine cost $27. i had the same thing last week no bush left. hope this helps
so you dont think its a major issue? is it a transfere out job to replace? or do you do it in the vehicle?

cheers
Ben

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:16 pm
by zookimal
Can be done with transfer still in the car.

The bush (or sheet) breaks down, allowing enough play for the shifter to come out of the selector rods in the front of the case. Last one I got was $14 from Suzuki a few years back.

The leak is a seperate issue.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:15 pm
by v840
Rebuild it dude, don't worry too much about getting a new one. They're about as mechanically simple as you're going to get.


http://locktup4x4.com.au/suzuki-89/driv ... t-393.html

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:13 pm
by zukimudman
yeh try that bush thats wat waswrong with mine

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:43 pm
by Sammyboy
mine had problems with the bush as well. I had it replaced probably 2+ years ago and haven't had any trouble since... oh yeah and it only cost me about $20

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:48 am
by thehanko
so this bush people keep mentioning... cant find it i dont think.

I took off the rubber gear lever boot, removed the rubber boot that goes over the gear lever at the transfere popped the gear lever out and there is nothing resembling a rubber bush.

am i not finding it or has it just vanished...

thanks im a noob to zuks. :roll:

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:54 am
by Taff
It should be under the 2 metal pins that locate the lever.

Its the cup shaped bit under that.

It might not seem like a bush, they can get super hard.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:39 pm
by thehanko
ok so, i think it must be that bush as i can now change gears by holding the lever in certain positions...

however i dont think the bush is there at all, here are two pics and unless its the small round seal inside the transfer below the two pins i dont think its there.

can some one confirm?

Image


I'm guessing its a rubberish style cup which sits at the bottom of this tube?
Image

as you can see in the pic there is a small black rubber o ring style thing but its only like 2mm thick. has some one done a dodge up and put this little bit of rubber in instead of the bush?

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:41 pm
by Guy
Yes there should be a bush that sits in there.
That is why you will be having issues.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:48 pm
by lay80n
Image

Read this - http://zukioffroad.com/Tech_Library/tca ... ushing.htm

And your on your way :D

Layto....

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:33 pm
by Taff
Taff wrote:It should be under the 2 metal pins that locate the lever.

Its the cup shaped bit under that.

It might not seem like a bush, they can get super hard.
thehanko wrote:unless its the small round seal inside the transfer below the two pins i dont think its there.

can some one confirm?

?

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:52 pm
by thehanko
lay80n wrote:Image

Read this - http://zukioffroad.com/Tech_Library/tca ... ushing.htm

And your on your way :D

Layto....
yeah that bit is definitely not there...

hi ho hi ho off to the car parts dealer i go.

thanks a million guys

is there any particular kind of gear oil you need for these transfers?

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:07 pm
by thehanko
Taff wrote:
Taff wrote:It should be under the 2 metal pins that locate the lever.

Its the cup shaped bit under that.

It might not seem like a bush, they can get super hard.
thehanko wrote:unless its the small round seal inside the transfer below the two pins i dont think its there.

can some one confirm?

?
i mean like tiny no where near the size of the one in the photo, more like a 2mm o ring. im guessing someone put this in to try to sort it out short term.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:19 pm
by thehanko
er...

suzuki dont have them and cant tell me when/if they will have them again...

thank gawd for ebay.

4wd products on ebay have these for $13.50 delivered for anyone else needing them in future.

cheers

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:06 pm
by lump_a_charcoal
Suzispares at Seven Hills have them on the shelf also.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:20 pm
by thehanko
how do you get that damn cup in place?!? the little locating pins for the lever get in the way. is there a trick to it or is it just one of those jobs you swear at until it somehow works.

:bad-words:

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:42 pm
by Taff
Just push it straight down to one side of them then flip it back to the right way up.

Dont be afraid to bend it, it will pop back into shape.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:49 pm
by thehanko
Taff wrote:Just push it straight down to one side of them then flip it back to the right way up.

Dont be afraid to bend it, it will pop back into shape.
awsome thanks that got it. the old girl is rolling again!

see you out there