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this is just a poll to see what people think about american suspension brands such as Skyjacker, COMPARED to australian suspension brands such as Tough Dog.

Any info would be great as i am considering a lift kit and just wondering if its worth getting skyjacker or any other american brand sent over.....

It will be installed on a 2007 dual cab hilux. lift will be for more clearance and to fit bigger tyres plus to add bit of looks to the truck.

Thanks guys, so please submitt your answer and any info!!!

on what? Morris 1000?

Pretty sure the guys have dropped the morris listings from the skyjacker kits . Maybe some old stock lying around but.

for what vehicle?
for what usage?

Why just Sykjacker vs Tough Dog? Why not EFS, Old Man EMu, etc etc

What price range?

what a great thread! this will contain orsum amounts of quality tech I am sure!

GRIMACE wrote:what a great thread! this will contain orsum amounts of quality tech I am sure!

Indeed, good sir!

How many times more can we expect you to ask about suspension brands other than the 6 or 7 times you have in the month since you joined????

There is no "best", only that which suits YOUR needs and YOUR pocket.

mate its not just skyjacer vs tough dog, i was only using them as a example, its basically usa suspension vs aus suspension and what peolpe think are the best or would advise!
any info on all australian or american brands are welcome!

Its for a 2007 dual cab hilux!
Usage is just for more ground clearance and to fit bigger tyres probly 32".
Price range? well i am not going to go over board, maybe no more than 2 grand but all depends.....

Thanks

when you weigh it up both countries use quality steel so i'd doubt you'd see a large difference - the biggest difference would be amount of lift you can buy off the shelf - most aussie spring lift kits are 2" or so, while USA kits are generally larger.

Quality is also relative - i've been running cheap and nasty malaysian made hilux leaf springs under my zuk for about 2 years now with no hassles what so ever - although i wanted them to be flat as possible - but they still havent snapped and the front is only ever so slightly warped.

so what has been wrong with all the answers you have already gotten in all your other threads?

so if it is just for ground clearance and bigger tyres just fit a body lift

there has been nothing wrong with the answers ive recieved in other threads but this is the first time ive asked about aussie vs usa!
if you dont like people asking questions and finding the aswers there after, i really dont think you should be looking at a forum!

Plus i thought this might be a good thread for anyone to look at, so please can we just keep posts to information and advice about the qustion.

I am not goin to get a body lift cause they are just gay and i need new suspension anyway!

Jack S wrote:there has been nothing wrong with the answers ive recieved in other threads but this is the first time ive asked about aussie vs usa!
if you dont like people asking questions and finding the aswers there after, i really dont think you should be looking at a forum!

Plus i thought this might be a good thread for anyone to look at, so please can we just keep posts to information and advice about the qustion.

I am not goin to get a body lift cause they are just . and i need new suspension anyway!

trying to work out the info you need and why the other answers haven't worked so people don't just give the same answer which haven't helped you out yet.

Your question is pretty basic so the answers will be as well making it pretty pointless.

What's wrong with body lifts as they will give you exactly what you are trying to achieve.

If you ask vague questions over and over again then you have to expect that people will either give you vague answers or take the piss. Or you can make your questions more detailed so people know what vehicle you have, what you are trying to achieve and why the other answers aren't helping you.

American kist are usually either very stiff as they are very high or they are very soft for a comfortable ride but no load carrying ability. Australian stuff is usually lower and more suited for load carrying and touring stuff

okay if you want me to edit the question ive asked than i will!!??

there have been nothing wrong with all the other answers ive recieved but this is first time ive mentioned anything about american brands and i couldnt really find a thread already on here that had asked what i have.

This is just a simple poll asking what peolpe rather, USA vs AUS suspension.

wow you'll go far on here when someone is offering you help by trying to determine the best answer to your vague question

mate if you cant help me with my question than please dont post, but your advise and opinion is more than welcome!

Jack S wrote:mate if you cant help me with my question than please dont post, but your advise and opinion is more than welcome!

I have helped

they are/have commented and left there views. so how about u just take it and stop posting about the same stuff over and over. why dont you just get a kit that avails to your needs and budget.

i know what my needs and budget is but i am only asking the questions as i would like to know what out thers that is worth buying or looking at.

I am just really new to the whole 4x4 thing, thats why ive been asking so many questions and trying to get as much info as possible!

the best way to get the right suspension is by trial and error.

There is no 'best or Better' brand that will guarantee the most orsumest results, as peoples suspension preferences are differing let alone the billions of variables applicapple to each individual car.

Trial and error is your best bet. It may be expensive but you learn a lot more and you get to make your own arseumptions.

Good luck with it.

thanks mate, thats very valuable information!

you see alot of blokes that have used 2 or 3 if not more different brands of suspension....

Can i ask what your running??

For $2000 you will only get a 2" lift and the Australian gear is made for our terain and warranty is much simpler when you dont have to freight it back to the states.

Cris

the budget you have mentioned is not exactly big dollar/high spec gear. I would guess that importing from the USA for the gear you are talking is going to blow your budget, or reduce the amount you have to spend.

GRIMACE wrote:the best way to get the right suspension is by trial and error.

There is no 'best or Better' brand that will guarantee the most orsumest results, as peoples suspension preferences are differing let alone the billions of variables applicapple to each individual car.

Trial and error is your best bet. It may be expensive but you learn a lot more and you get to make your own arseumptions.

Good luck with it.

my god dude... whats going on, did you REALLY manage to clean your vagina last night too?? your making sense out here..

Jack S wrote:thanks mate, thats very valuable information!

you see alot of blokes that have used 2 or 3 if not more different brands of suspension....

Can i ask what your running??

At the moment i am running bilstien shocks and lovelss springs up front, with boss shock and dobinsons springs in the rear.

I am changing all the shocks in the future (to have bilsteins all round) as the boss shock just arnt good enough, and will be changing the rear springs (to what, is yet unknown to me).

You see I have tried al sorts of different setups and am slowly making changes to suit my application.

You can see by the fact that I run totally different setup front to rear that no one brand is preffered.

bogged wrote:

GRIMACE wrote:the best way to get the right suspension is by trial and error.

There is no 'best or Better' brand that will guarantee the most orsumest results, as peoples suspension preferences are differing let alone the billions of variables applicapple to each individual car.

Trial and error is your best bet. It may be expensive but you learn a lot more and you get to make your own arseumptions.

Good luck with it.

my god dude... whats going on, did you REALLY manage to clean your female bits last night too?? your making sense out here..

i dont know whats goin on... i don't feel to well. Maybe I should go see a doctor.

GRIMACE wrote:

Jack S wrote:thanks mate, thats very valuable information!

you see alot of blokes that have used 2 or 3 if not more different brands of suspension....

Can i ask what your running??

At the moment i am running bilstien shocks and lovelss springs up front, with boss shock and dobinsons springs in the rear.

I am changing all the shocks in the future (to have bilsteins all round) as the boss shock just arnt good enough, and will be changing the rear springs (to what, is yet unknown to me).

You see I have tried al sorts of different setups and am slowly making changes to suit my application.

You can see by the fact that I run totally different setup front to rear that no one brand is preffered.

*Hijack on*
I imagine your going through shane at suspension stuff? What size lift did you end up going? Are you running the 3" flexi coils on the rangie? I'm about to outlay the money but was tossing up between the boss shocks and bilstein. Whats your feedback on the boss compared to bilstein? Have been leaning more towards the bilstein for a while now.
*Hijack off*

at the moment i am probly going to get tough dog 2" kit, which i can get for $1600 installed and everything!

but have been considering getting billies shocks and struts. So how do the billies go? There a pretty good brand arent they?

stuee wrote:*Hijack on*
I imagine your going through shane at suspension stuff? What size lift did you end up going? Are you running the 3" flexi coils on the rangie? I'm about to outlay the money but was tossing up between the boss shocks and bilstein. Whats your feedback on the boss compared to bilstein? Have been leaning more towards the bilstein for a while now.
*Hijack off*

The front springs and rear shocks were from shane at suspension stuff.

I am not happy with the Boss shocks but I was not expecting much from them to begin with. Shane has and continues to be more then helpful.
My personal opinion would be to avoid the boss shocks aswell as other adjustables.

I have not had any experiance with the flexi coils. I simply can't bring myself to using any other spring in the front. The Lovells are just brilliant, we have three rovers with these exact springs (lovells RRR-03) all running extremely well. Shane can supply them aswell.

I have another rangie that will be getting the flexicoils in the near future, but until then I can't really comment on them.

With regards to lift hieght, its currently approx 3" front and 4" rear.

Jack S wrote:at the moment i am probly going to get tough dog 2" kit, which i can get for $1600 installed and everything!

but have been considering getting billies shocks and struts. So how do the billies go? There a pretty good brand arent they?

I love the bilstein shocks, only downfall is the single tube design is easily damaged. Hence my next set will run some rockgards.

GRIMACE wrote:

bogged wrote:

GRIMACE wrote:the best way to get the right suspension is by trial and error.

There is no 'best or Better' brand that will guarantee the most orsumest results, as peoples suspension preferences are differing let alone the billions of variables applicapple to each individual car.

Trial and error is your best bet. It may be expensive but you learn a lot more and you get to make your own arseumptions.

Good luck with it.

my god dude... whats going on, did you REALLY manage to clean your female bits last night too?? your making sense out here..

i dont know whats goin on... i don't feel to well. Maybe I should go see a doctor.

3 rovers... that will do it to ya