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whats better ..Simex Extreme Trekker or Silverstone MT-117
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:19 pm
by collins110
just wanting to know what everyone thinks is best
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:08 pm
by Petes
It depends I think. The Silverstones have a slightly more open pattern than the Simex's and seem to be marginally better in mud, but the Simexs are much closer to the stated tyre size on the side at least in 35's
I run the Silverstones and havent been stuck on them yet.
I also think the Simex are regarded to be better on the road, but thats not much of a compliment really......
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:40 pm
by collins110
Petes wrote:It depends I think. The Silverstones have a slightly more open pattern than the Simex's and seem to be marginally better in mud, but the Simexs are much closer to the stated tyre size on the side at least in 35's
I run the Silverstones and havent been stuck on them yet.
I also think the Simex are regarded to be better on the road, but thats not much of a compliment really......
well im considering having one set for 4wding and one for normal day...so the only onroad would be to the forest.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:15 pm
by Toyo80
Whilst i have never used the Simex's or the tyre you mentioned in particular, i can strongly vouch for the Mt-117's in the Sport, put simply they are an awesome tyre in mud on rock on the road (even though you can hear them) & give you confidence in the wet.
If the Silverstones you have mentioned are the same or similar compound i would go for them.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:12 pm
by Petes
I assumed he meant the 117 extremes, not the sports. I dont rate the sports much, in mud they are rubbish IME
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:15 pm
by collins110
Petes wrote:I assumed he meant the 117 extremes, not the sports. I dont rate the sports much, in mud they are rubbish IME
yeah i meant the extremes ...mainly because iv been looking at trying to get some simex's but considering the 117 extremes look the same i might end up going for them
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:13 pm
by alien
i've not run the silverstones but im running 31" simex ET's on my zuk (measure 32") - they've been great thus far and its my DD. i find i have more on road grip than i did on my cooper stt's!
I contemplated the silverstones - but figured "why buy the ripoff brand?" - especially when Ryano at fourbies gave such good pricing on the pedes!
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:29 pm
by Struth
The Silverstone extremes are basically awesome off road, they just grab shit and keep on giving traction.
Simex crap all over them on road, which again isn't much of a compliment for an extreme tire.
My only concern would be life cycle on the Silverstones, which I haven't seen anyone have them long enough to indicate yet.
Cheers
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:39 pm
by macneil
i bought my silver stones with about 20,000kms on them and i still got about 14mm tread in the middle lugs.. just run tubes in the tyres tho
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:45 pm
by GQ Bear
I've got 35x11.5 R15 simexes and they're absolutely awesome in mud and on rocks. Seen the 117 extremes in mud and they went good too. Extreme trekker 2's handle better than jungle trekker 2's on road but are still pretty shithouse. You wouldn't want to drive on them too much. If 117's are worse they must be outright dangerous on road.
They all sound like a B-52 bomber on final approach to Hiroshima.
It's noisy in the cab, vehicle shakes around and drifts, braking is done very tentatively and well in advance. Mate, it's the closest i'll ever come to flying or riding in a Hercules i reckon.
Whichever one you choose i'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:47 am
by TRobbo
GQ Bear wrote:
It's noisy in the cab, vehicle shakes around and drifts, braking is done very tentatively and well in advance. Mate, it's the closest i'll ever come to flying or riding in a Hercules i reckon.
Whichever one you choose i'm sure you won't be disappointed.
That about sums them up alright
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:07 am
by nzdarin
I've used both 35x10.5/16 Silverstones and 35x11.5/15 Simex on the same truck in comps. GQ TD42t Trayback etc etc.
Simex is a better all round tyre.
35x10.5 Simex and Silverstone are the same size. (we measured) 11.5 Simex is a lot bigger.
In wet clay, NOTHING compares with the Silverstone but when it gets soft they dig really really fast.
On wet roads the Silverstone is just dangerous!
So in certain conditions the Silverstone is a far better tyre but over all I'd go for the Simex.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:22 pm
by GRIMACE
The silverstone extremes suck big time on solid rock.
The Simex tyres are not that great on solid rock either.
Everything else, both tyres chew through quiet well.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:41 pm
by Petes
they are so crap on rock I run my 33 BFG MT's instead!
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:35 pm
by want33s
I've had 33x10.5 Silverstone MT117's as well as my current 32X9.5 ET pede's.
The Silverstones were a much better tyre.. They would work at a lot lower PSI.. 3 psi Vs the 10psi the pedes need.
The 117's were better on rock, better on side slopes, better handling all round.
I only bought the Simexes because I wanted a 33" tyre and at the time 117's advertised 33" but were only 31.5"
Next tyres will definately be Silverstones again.. 33x10.5 if they sort out the sizing issues or 35's if they don't.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:12 pm
by GQ Bear
want33s wrote:I've had 33x10.5 Silverstone MT117's as well as my current 32X9.5 ET pede's.
The Silverstones were a much better tyre.. They would work at a lot lower PSI.. 3 psi Vs the 10psi the pedes need.
The 117's were better on rock, better on side slopes, better handling all round.
I only bought the Simexes because I wanted a 33" tyre and at the time 117's advertised 33" but were only 31.5"
Next tyres will definately be Silverstones again.. 33x10.5 if they sort out the sizing issues or 35's if they don't.
Simex sell the Jungle Trekkers in a 33". Different tyre all together from Extreme trekker 2's.
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:36 am
by GRPABT1
It depends on the vehicle too, the silverstones are good on light weight zooks because they bag easier and are a softer compound but on larger rigs they wear quickly and tear chunks quite easily.
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:38 pm
by whitemav
GQ Bear wrote:
Whichever one you choose i'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Until you follow your mate on 35x10.5 simex through a bog hole and diff out on your 35x11.5 silverstones
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(identical vehicles of course)
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:07 pm
by want33s
GQ Bear wrote:
Simex sell the Jungle Trekkers in a 33". Different tyre all together from Extreme trekker 2's.
I have a few mates with Jungle Trekkers and the best I can say about JT's is that I'll never buy any.
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:41 pm
by GRIMACE
want33s wrote:GQ Bear wrote:
Simex sell the Jungle Trekkers in a 33". Different tyre all together from Extreme trekker 2's.
I have a few mates with Jungle Trekkers and the best I can say about JT's is that I'll never buy any.
*cough* me either, cause i think they stink *couch* nothing!
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:52 pm
by MICK77
GRIMACE wrote:want33s wrote:GQ Bear wrote:
Simex sell the Jungle Trekkers in a 33". Different tyre all together from Extreme trekker 2's.
I have a few mates with Jungle Trekkers and the best I can say about JT's is that I'll never buy any.
*cough* me either, cause i think they stink *couch* nothing!
I have JT2's in 33x11.5x15 which are actually 34.5 high when new.
They are a great tyre in mud, loose dirt, small rocks etc. They do suck a bit on big rocks as they don't bag at all. I have had 6psi in them and the sidewalls don't bag out one bit. On bitumen they are absolutely Farkin scary!!!!!!! On wet bitumen you are as nervous as a paedophile at a wiggles concert!!!!
I haven't driven on 117's or ET's. I may have to make them my next tyre choice as everyone reckons they're awesome in the mud.
Cheers,
Micko
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:22 pm
by ludacris
I always liked my simex 36" with the 3 rib middle. Good on road and excellent offroad. drove a lot that others didnt and they never dug in too fast as to bury you.
Cris