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coil spring retainers, what works, what doesnt. Pics please

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:36 pm
by one_waz
As stated what have people used to retain the coils at the bottem? Pic would be appriciated

cheers

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:56 pm
by DUDELUX
alot that i have seen have used dshackles, 3 on the bottom of each coil, some of the ones ive seen have been tufftruck entrants, so it must work ok

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:12 pm
by GRIMACE
hose clamps work fine for me!

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:23 pm
by pinkfloyddsotm
pics pics pics :D

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:31 pm
by ludacris
Two bits of flat about 50 x 70mm (patrol) with a 10mm hole through them. Weld each flat on either side of the coil and put a long bolt through. Make sure you have the clearance. Flat may be cut to suit vehicle I can provide photo if need be.

Cris

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:33 pm
by ludacris
Two bits of flat about 5mm x 50 x 70mm (patrol) with a 10mm hole through them. Weld each flat on either side of the coil and put a long bolt through. Make sure you have the clearance. Flat may be cut to suit vehicle I can provide photo if need be.

Cris

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:45 pm
by one_waz
yes, pics please cris

thanks

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:09 pm
by ludacris

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:07 pm
by vanbox
ludacris wrote:[img][img]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/k ... ers001.jpg[/img][/img]
There is a hole in the centre of the mount. I have used 50x10 flat bar across the coil with a 12mm single bolt through the centre, no welding. Little bit fiddly to get to the nut under the mount though. Tried 5mm, folded it in half and coil popped out anyway!!

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:35 am
by one_waz
thanks cris,

so does the coil compress onto the bolt on up travel because i was thinking of doing what vanbox said but thought it might squash up a little

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:58 am
by chunks

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:34 am
by GRIMACE

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:59 am
by one_waz
think ill be able to bang up something like that pretty easy

thanks for the responses

-Waz

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:39 am
by Utemad
vanbox wrote:There is a hole in the centre of the mount. I have used 50x10 flat bar across the coil with a 12mm single bolt through the centre, no welding. Little bit fiddly to get to the nut under the mount though. Tried 5mm, folded it in half and coil popped out anyway!!
This is how the springs are retained at the bottom on a series 1 Discovery.
The original plate is a bit lightweight though. They are not retained at the top. They use two bolts though.

Is a Patrol spring not retained at all from the factory or are they retained at the top?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:15 am
by one_waz
as far as i know, patrol springs arnt retained from factory

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:14 pm
by lay80n
Factory patrol springs and shocks are sized so that the shock limits droop just before the spring reaches its full extended length.

Layto....

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:00 am
by pinkfloyddsotm
these are mine, they do the trick, coils havent moved yet,welded nut in the middle of the coil mount.

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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:17 am
by rockcrawler31
on a similar note, i have retainers but when the spring reseats it makes a farking loud bang. I suspect the coil is catching the edge of teh internal bumpstop mount, compressing a little then coming free to reseat properly making a racket in the process. Is there an easier way to fix this than welding in pipe reducers? I'd rather keep the internal bumpstops.

these are 80 series coil hats by the way

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:00 am
by pinkfloyddsotm
rockcrawler31 wrote:on a similar note, i have retainers but when the spring reseats it makes a farking loud bang. I suspect the coil is catching the edge of teh internal bumpstop mount, compressing a little then coming free to reseat properly making a racket in the process. Is there an easier way to fix this than welding in pipe reducers? I'd rather keep the internal bumpstops.

these are 80 series coil hats by the way
yer mine do that too, i can see the marking on the bumpstop from where the coil catches on , its scary, i keep thinking something has broken off. lol

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:43 pm
by ludacris
Coil never compressors onto the bolt, not noisy at all. Have not bent a bolt yet and coil is retained at the top as well in a similar way.

Cris

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:03 pm
by Willy Hilux
The noise is the coil reseating itself up the top.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:09 pm
by rockcrawler31
Willy Hilux wrote:The noise is the coil reseating itself up the top.
i worked that one out after i shat myself the first time it happened. :D

By about the tenth time it no longer worried me but annoy's the bejeezus out of me. That and every other silly prick going "Wwhoahh dude, what's that noise man, that doesn't sound good"

Paging captain obvious, captain obvious to checkout 6 please..... :D

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:15 pm
by 6.5 rangie
one_waz wrote:as far as i know, patrol springs arnt retained from factory
unlike a disco/rangie, patrols don't flex enough so no need to retain the coil ;)

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:30 pm
by ethann
6.5 rangie wrote:
one_waz wrote:as far as i know, patrol springs arnt retained from factory
unlike a disco/rangie, patrols don't flex enough so no need to retain the coil ;)
Just take off the sway bars haha.
Nah, Ill give it to rangies, They do have decent flex for stock =p.