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k guys, got some questions about bundera diffs and suspension

1. How wide are they
2. Can the ifs hub conversion be done to them
3. Can ya get longfields (or similar) for them
4. What r&p's are available (do the hiace ones fit)
5. Are the radius arms really that gay for flex (cant be worse than ifs)
6. They're 3 link in the front aren't they, whats the back setup
7. How wide are the suspension mounting points on the front/back

1. NFI
2. Should be able to as meant to be the same front diff as a lux
3. As above
4. Need a HP front, you can get 5.29 hp gears from the us (but not hiace ones as they are lp)

they are about as wide as a bundera body ..

Yes IFS hubs can be put on em
They can flex better than IFS
Its 3 link front and rear (rear similar setup to front)

ok then

1. are the bundera chassis as wide as a 75 series?
2. where to the radius arms locate on the chassis (underneath/inside,outside chassis rails)

so are the fronts all high pinion hey, whats the 5.29 from the states worth? is the back able to accept a standard hiace swap

antt wrote:k guys, got some questions about bundera diffs and suspension

1. How wide are they
2. Can the ifs hub conversion be done to them
3. Can ya get longfields (or similar) for them
4. What r&p's are available (do the hiace ones fit)
5. Are the radius arms really that gay for flex (cant be worse than ifs)
6. They're 3 link in the front aren't they, whats the back setup
7. How wide are the suspension mounting points on the front/back

1. 55" WMS-WMS. Same as Hilux.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. 4.1,4.3,4.5,4.88,5.29.
5. Radius arms are not that bad. The lockless runs them in the front.
6. Rear is similar to the front.
7. Not sure on this but im sure one of the bundy guys can measure this for you.

Ok you can run a low pinion in the front as long as you swap to hilux swivel hubs and fit the drag link in front. You may have clearance problems with the panard rod though. But you can run a high steer set up to overcome this.

cheers ruff

just investigating this route as i've been told it is a far simpler engineering and compliancing process if you use factory gear from another car and QLD Transport looks much more favourably at it then custom stuff.

would have to run the 5.29 centres

I beleive it would also be an easier swap into a Vitara than leaf springs.

Yep I'm sourcing a HP 5.29 from the US at the moment.
Found these so far :-

http://www.roadlessgear.com/page/TOY/PROD/DA/YTOY100

http://www.cruiseroutfitters.com/lockers.html

Precision Gears don't do them anymore apparently.
The Hiace LP 5.29 should run in the rear but no one here in Oz supplies a 5.29 HP that I could find so you would have to buy direct from the US.

any bundera guys on here that can run a tape measure over their suspension

If they're the same width as normal hilux axles then the difference in width is like about 10mm to the Vitara - with the Vitara wider.

Nothing rim offset wont fix.

yeah, the diff width doesn't worry me, mainly the radius arm mounting points and the coil spring mounts

IMPOSE from the forum here is gonna get some measurements off his tomorrow

while we are on this......noosa eumundi auto wreckers have two complete bunderas.....one has now lost its steering arms though....ph.o7 54428866

well, this is looking more and more promising. IMPOSE sent me these measurements from his bundy to try out

1. coil to coil measurement

from centre to centre of coils 930mm FRONT 735mm REAR

2. radius arm mount to radius arm mount (at the chassis end)

670mm FRONT 815mm REAR thats from the chassis mount bolts centre to centre

3. length of the radius arm (where it mounts on the chassis) down to the centre of the axle

FRONT 930mm REAR 830mm These are from the chassis mounts to the bolts on the front mount so take a little off (maybe 5cm???) for 'centre of axle' Sorry only thing i could hook a tape onto

in the front the coil spacing is identical to the vitaras, so if i didn't move the axle forward, i'd probably be able to use the stock mounts. the radius arm spacing is pretty much perfect to sit just inside the frame rails, and with the length, the only thing i'd have to move would probably be the muffler.

in the rear things are a bit different. i'd have to mount the coils under the chassis, and the radius arm mounts would end up on the outside edge of the chassis.

i've mainly got one question. how much twist do the radius arms get near the chassis mount under full compression/extension? just wondering if i'll be right for clearance

What diffs / axles could you put on a bundy to get disk brakes and hopefully wider track without to many mods.
eg 80 series axles / diffs ?
Disk brakes is what would be really useful , wider track can be taken care of with spaces and or bigger offset rims.
Evan