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GU Patrol Dualcab registered as an ICV?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:13 am
by deansguii
Hi guys, Just wondering if someone with a bit more knowledge than me could answer some questions?
Has anyone registered a Dualcab Chopped patrol as an ICV? As it seems an ICV can have bigger tyres and a reasonable lift written up as standard fitment?
Therefore making say a 5" Lift and 35's legal.
ICVs built with
production vehicle body
shells
A monocoque body shell from a production passenger car (MA category)
will not be considered as the basis for an ICV unless:
· the body is fitted to a separate chassis resulting in a change of
category to MC or NA - for example, a Holden Commodore station
wagon body fitted to a Toyota Landcruiser chassis and suspension,
or
· the body is substantially modified so that it no longer is recognisable
as the original vehicle or a production variant – for example, a four
door sedan cut into a two door utility.
The 2nd point, four door sedan cut into a ute, would this count also on a 4 door wagon cut into a 4 door ute? It was never released in a dualcab ute, so it could possibly be engineered as an ICV yes?
Therefore my 5" Lift and 35's become standard fitment?
Ive read through the the data on QLD Transport about ICV's and i cant see anywhere that it says i cant do this?
Only thing itll do is possibly make my insurance more expensive, but im used to that, HSV when i was 18 cost over $2500 a year to insure.
Any info from anyone would be great, Do we have any engineers on this forum?
Cheers, Dean.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:54 am
by Spartacus
CURRENT NCOP
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... _ncop.aspx
also read the current vehicle standards available at the QLD GOV.
website.
seach for light vehicle standards
cheers
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:05 pm
by deansguii
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:23 pm
by grimbo
bru is the guy to talk too about ICV he is currently building an ICV buggy.
I don't believe you can just modify a vehicle to suddenly make it an ICV and magically get past modification laws. I think it needs to be beasically an Individually Constructed Vehicle (ICV) soething pretty much started from scratch or a kit vehicle
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:21 pm
by bogged
grimbo wrote:bru is the guy to talk too about ICV he is currently building an ICV buggy.
I don't believe you can just modify a vehicle to suddenly make it an ICV and magically get past modification laws. I think it needs to be beasically an Individually Constructed Vehicle (ICV) soething pretty much started from scratch or a kit vehicle
x eleventy, or every Tuff Truck would be ICV
a differnet Ncop link.
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... _ncop.aspx
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:23 pm
by deansguii
Thats why i was querying a cab cut being classed as an icv.
i casn not find much other information on ICV's other than what is on the qld gov website.
Cheers, Dean.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:38 pm
by PJ.zook
A mate at work recently went though all the hoops to try and get a Eureka (fibreglass body on VW chassis) registered, tried every way of doing it for a year but kept having red tape thrown at him no matter what he did. In the end he had to give up and get it on the road with restrictive club plates. Ie getting ICV's etc is not as easy as it sounds.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:47 pm
by bogged
PJ.zook wrote:A mate at work recently went though all the hoops to try and get a Eureka (fibreglass body on VW chassis) registered, tried every way of doing it for a year but kept having red tape thrown at him no matter what he did. In the end he had to give up and get it on the road with restrictive club plates. Ie getting ICV's etc is not as easy as it sounds.
That sounds strange, unless he was doing something out of the ordinary with it, they are everywhere and there are plenty registered already
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:06 pm
by grimbo
deansguii wrote:Thats why i was querying a cab cut being classed as an icv.
i casn not find much other information on ICV's other than what is on the qld gov website.
Cheers, Dean.
might have to speak to an engineer then. best bet anyway is to get one on board before you start
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:33 pm
by deansguii
grimbo wrote:deansguii wrote:Thats why i was querying a cab cut being classed as an icv.
i casn not find much other information on ICV's other than what is on the qld gov website.
Cheers, Dean.
might have to speak to an engineer then. best bet anyway is to get one on board before you start
For the money its going to cost me to get it legal, i might as well just put the truck back to standard and buy a bigger boat so i dont have to keep stealing the old mans haha.
I can modify basically anything i want on my boat without so much as a blink from the authorities. So long as it is registered they dont seem to care what gets done.
Cheers, Dean
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:02 pm
by Micka
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:47 pm
by deansguii
HaHa you've been beat to it, evidently you didnt read the other topic mate.
I cant delete the topics, thats up to the moderator.
Gee its like this forum is full of primary school kids, and people that arent happy unless they winge.
Dont know why i bothered posting on this site.
Grow up, Mate.
Cheers, Dean.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:02 pm
by bogged
deansguii wrote:I can modify basically anything i want on my boat without so much as a blink from the authorities. So long as it is registered they dont seem to care what gets done.
as you've found out Qld are faeces for any form of mod.. just how it is.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:08 pm
by deansguii
bogged wrote:deansguii wrote:I can modify basically anything i want on my boat without so much as a blink from the authorities. So long as it is registered they dont seem to care what gets done.
as you've found out Qld are faeces for any form of mod.. just how it is.
They sure are arent they?
Wish i could talk the missus into moving to VIC, but thats never gonna happen. Oh well, after 4wd Action shoot ill look into putting the truck back to standard.
Now that im going to start doing some towing when i start building my comp truck, i cant have the chance of having insurance wiped for illegal mods to truck.
Cheers, Dean.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:46 pm
by grimbo
deansguii wrote:
HaHa you've been beat to it, evidently you didnt read the other topic mate.
I cant delete the topics, thats up to the moderator.
Gee its like this forum is full of primary school kids, and people that arent happy unless they winge.
Dont know why i bothered posting on this site.
Grow up, Mate.
Cheers, Dean.
it's because its better to have all the relevant info in one spot so other people can easily find it to either ad more info or get benefit from the info.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:01 pm
by deansguii
grimbo wrote:deansguii wrote:
HaHa you've been beat to it, evidently you didnt read the other topic mate.
I cant delete the topics, thats up to the moderator.
Gee its like this forum is full of primary school kids, and people that arent happy unless they winge.
Dont know why i bothered posting on this site.
Grow up, Mate.
Cheers, Dean.
it's because its better to have all the relevant info in one spot so other people can easily find it to either ad more info or get benefit from the info.
Im not arguing this point, In the other topic i stated that i put it in nissan, then though that its not really nissan specific, i wanted to know of any brand that someone had registered as ICV so i posted this in general.
But i cannot delete the other topic as im not a moderator.
Mods can delete both of these topics if they want, ive got more than enough info now.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:17 pm
by -Scott-
deansguii wrote:
HaHa you've been beat to it, evidently you didnt read the other topic mate.
I cant delete the topics, thats up to the moderator.
Gee its like this forum is full of primary school kids, and people that arent happy unless they winge.
You've acknowledged yourself that posting it in Nissan was a mistake. You've been called on that mistake.
Yes, "the call" was not necessary, but so what? Your response to the call demonstrates a similar lack of maturity.
deansguii wrote:Dont know why i bothered posting on this site.
Grow up, Mate.
Cheers, Dean.
Rubbish. You know exactly why you posted on this site, as do most regular OL members. Get over the criticism (such as it was) and exploit this site for all it's worth.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:22 pm
by deansguii
-Scott- wrote:deansguii wrote:
HaHa you've been beat to it, evidently you didnt read the other topic mate.
I cant delete the topics, thats up to the moderator.
Gee its like this forum is full of primary school kids, and people that arent happy unless they winge.
You've acknowledged yourself that posting it in Nissan was a mistake. You've been called on that mistake.
Yes, "the call" was not necessary, but so what? Your response to the call demonstrates a similar lack of maturity.
deansguii wrote:Dont know why i bothered posting on this site.
Grow up, Mate.
Cheers, Dean.
Rubbish. You know exactly why you posted on this site, as do most regular OL members. Get over the criticism (such as it was) and exploit this site for all it's worth.
Mate, I can post on Patrol4x4 site, and get helpful answers, and relative answers, with no 12yr old nonsense.
Thats why i dont know why i bothered posting on this site.
I got the info i needed off patrol4x4 forum so mods can delete the 2 topics.
Cheers, Dean.
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:35 pm
by grimbo
well what did you find out? Is there any chance of beig able to do what you want?
What about perhaps going down the route of using a Rhino Buggies Hummer kit?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:00 pm
by Micka
deansguii wrote:-Scott- wrote:deansguii wrote:
HaHa you've been beat to it, evidently you didnt read the other topic mate.
I cant delete the topics, thats up to the moderator.
Gee its like this forum is full of primary school kids, and people that arent happy unless they winge.
You've acknowledged yourself that posting it in Nissan was a mistake. You've been called on that mistake.
Yes, "the call" was not necessary, but so what? Your response to the call demonstrates a similar lack of maturity.
deansguii wrote:Dont know why i bothered posting on this site.
Grow up, Mate.
Cheers, Dean.
Rubbish. You know exactly why you posted on this site, as do most regular OL members. Get over the criticism (such as it was) and exploit this site for all it's worth.
Mate, I can post on Patrol4x4 site, and get helpful answers, and relative answers, with no 12yr old nonsense.
Thats why i dont know why i bothered posting on this site.
I got the info i needed off patrol4x4 forum so mods can delete the 2 topics.
Cheers, Dean.
How fawkin touchy are you, princess?
The smiling face with the fingers surely denotes sarcasm and the fact that I was having a dig. If you can't cop a little bit of flack, then pick up your skirt and skip off into the distance. This is OuterLimits, not nappy training for Patrol drivers
Did you notice the smiling face with the fingers that time, champ?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:59 pm
by deansguii
grimbo wrote:well what did you find out? Is there any chance of beig able to do what you want?
What about perhaps going down the route of using a Rhino Buggies Hummer kit?
This is about my only option.
But i think for the $$$ im going to buy something better on fuel to get to work, and build a trailer queen to play a bit more serious in the bush.
Good 'ol QLD modification rules.
Cheers, Dean.
While im not apologising for my remarks earlier , I havnt had a real good day today. So yes i can cop a bit of flak, but not today evidently. Dont take my tantrum to heart