Outer Limits 4x4 Board

ok i have yous'd the serch funtion but all the threads are to old an dont have pics anymore so could yous please show me some pics of ifs rears flexing in older model luxs cheers

mate there was a thread like 2 or 3 weeks ago about flexing IFS springs!

Try no lift and lockers, You'll go heaps further and it will drive heaps better.

i was just trying to find out if it is rearly worth it . cause some of you swere by ifs rears an some of you's think they overated an none of the threads i found anwser this question cheers

There better than stock length but over rated for sure, unless you run a very thin/flexible pack and a track bar its not a worthwhile upgrade (RUF is a different story)

Locktup rears are probably the best option and fairly cheapo atm to.

locktup is still more then i can aford at the monent

Mate just take a couple leaves out and put some cut down leaves under the spring pack to get height right, nice and cheap.Works for me.
Steve

optima wrote:locktup is still more then i can aford at the monent

Well why are you asking IFS rears or lockers, if you can afford lockers do it obviously lockers will get any 4wd further than just rear suspension , just doesnt make much sense to me.

And IFS rears usually cost $400 and Locktup's are $499 thats why i suggested it...

STUMPY wrote:Try no lift and lockers, You'll go heaps further and it will drive heaps better.

Then try lift and lockers, You'll go heaps further and if set up right it will drive heaps better.

4RUNNER_01 wrote:

STUMPY wrote:Try no lift and lockers, You'll go heaps further and it will drive heaps better.

Then try lift and lockers, You'll go heaps further and if set up right it will drive heaps better.

X2 saves smashing every thing under you truck because you can drive it but dont have the clearance

I find it hard to believe he'll smash everything under the truck with no lift

Rock sliders, and no lift, put some 35s on it and ruf it and theres your clearance.

Mine has next to no lift and a stock box x member and rarely gets hung up on anything nor does it smash ANYTHING under the truck.

Imo a truck should be built, with lockers first, then suspension, then tyres.

A locked truck with no flex on 31at's will outdrive the sickest looking city gutter jumper haha

4RUNNER_01 wrote:

optima wrote:locktup is still more then i can aford at the monent

Well why are you asking IFS rears or lockers, if you can afford lockers do it obviously lockers will get any 4wd further than just rear suspension , just doesnt make much sense to me.

And IFS rears usually cost $400 and Locktup's are $499 thats why i suggested it...

Ifs rears are not $400, nor are they worth fitting, they are sh!t imo, a stock 2inch lift pack with them fiddled with will out flex a ifs pack of 4 leaves that are a billionty mm thick.

berad wrote:I find it hard to believe he'll smash everything under the truck with no lift

Rock sliders, and no lift, put some 35s on it and ruf it and theres your clearance.

Mine has next to no lift and a stock box x member and rarely gets hung up on anything nor does it smash ANYTHING under the truck.

Imo a truck should be built, with lockers first, then suspension, then tyres.

A locked truck with no flex on 31at's will outdrive the sickest looking city gutter jumper haha

Yeh you wont if you stay away from the rocks or only stick to easy/ medium tracks...

You will eventually hit the steering arm, sills (if no side rails), back of transfer (make a stronger guard or use lowprofile crossmember), tail shafts, front diff pumpkin (make/ buy a guard)

I'n talking about a stock truck with no lift and lockers as you said, it will get damaged.

But only my opinion, depends on the tracks you intend on driving
Brad

As i said rock sliders, and a x member upgrade, sure it will get hung up more often than the truck having 3-4inch of lift, but telling me 4inchs of lift clears the chassis/spring hangers etc more often than not in the terrain your talking about is a bit far fetched.



Extended shackles with using ifs springs will get hung up on more.

Tie rod, will get taken out with or without lift, asking for trouble going into that stuff with an oem arm.

or pitman arm/ j arm assy, once again 4 inchs more clearance is a kick in the pants but odds are in your favrour having a tyre , diff and spring perch to help protect it.

All in good fun, nothing better than a good debate haha.

Stock leaves front and rear. I drive mine hard and often bounce off the t/fer crossmember, have never broken anything below the cab.

4RUNNER_01 wrote:

STUMPY wrote:Try no lift and lockers, You'll go heaps further and it will drive heaps better.

Then try lift and lockers, You'll go heaps further and if set up right it will drive heaps better.

Back to the original quote its definitely better to have both but there is a lot of variation by the time you beef up the under body to cop a flogging you may as well have bought a dropped spring hanger, extended shackles, IFS rears, RUF(but flat springs are the go), Long shocks and High steer then do any tracks you want without damage (with appropriate driving)

After you buy Lockers ofcoarse

only saying this to stir ya's all up but you all know its true!

My locktup springs outflexed the IFS easily.

4runner_01

Well why are you asking IFS rears or lockers, if you can afford lockers do it obviously lockers will get any 4wd further than just rear suspension , just doesnt make much sense to me.

And IFS rears usually cost $400 and Locktup's are $499 thats why i suggested it

its just id rather spend money on lock rights then flash suspention if there is a cheaper alternitive for suspention allthough boofs green lux does work verry well nice lux mate
as to 400 for ifs springs i can get them cheaper then that but like i siad is it really worth it an it sounds like its not cheers for the help fellas

berad wrote:
Ifs rears are not $400, nor are they worth fitting, they are sh!t imo, a stock 2inch lift pack with them fiddled with will out flex a ifs pack of 4 leaves that are a billionty mm thick.

Show us a pic of how good your 2" lifted pack flexes.

booflux wrote:My locktup springs outflexed the IFS easily.

You can not compare this set up to your old set up in this thread Gary. These guys are talking abnout a set of IFS rears fitted to a Solid Axle Chassie which is totaly different to what you had.

Thats true but I am still yet to see a set of IFS rears flex as well, remembering that was standard TG pack not modified at all.

if u dont wanna go ifs rears go falcon, there cheap enuff and can find them at most wreckers and they flex great.

johnsy86 do you have any picks of this kind of rear set up cheers mate

I thought I would throw this in....

Retained top and bottom coils

funny looking ifs leafs lol

dam coils nice lux mate

Best thing is that it flex's better with the coils than it did with very long leaves and drop shackles.

yer its hard to beat coils