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Braided brake line... Anybody else ever blown 1?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:31 pm
by marin
Just looking for a show of hands and the situation if you have ever blown a braided brake line.

I have just blown 2 in a month, the one's over the swivel hub.

I'll get back to you in PM regarding brand etc..... please don't post any brand names or shop names.

Re: Braided brake line... Anybody else ever blown 1?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:26 pm
by bogged
were they rubbing on anything?
Or just let go?

What brand/make/where from?? I've been lookin at these recently myself...

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:38 pm
by PJ.zook
Man there must be something pretty wrong with blowing two. I cant see them blowing under any pressures you can get with youre leg and vaccuum on the pedal, it can really only be poor materials or workmanship.

Re: Braided brake line... Anybody else ever blown 1?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:38 pm
by marin
bogged wrote:were they rubbing on anything?
Or just let go?

What brand/make/where from?? I've been lookin at these recently myself...
Right next to the crimp of the banjo fitting. So no, not rubbing.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:39 pm
by PJ.zook
Yeh sounds like poor workmanship with the crimping.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:19 pm
by bogged
PJ.zook wrote:Yeh sounds like poor workmanship with the crimping.
or bolted up on too much angle - eg wrong length

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:35 pm
by chimpboy
Twisted during installation?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:05 pm
by DamTriton
Vibration work hardening the braiding? Was the hose well supported, ie. a "spring" over the hose like they do with the rubber tubes?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:35 pm
by marin
DAMKIA wrote:Vibration work hardening the braiding? Was the hose well supported, ie. a "spring" over the hose like they do with the rubber tubes?
No spring, but it was only a month old. I have suspicions from what somebody has told me, but can't say much on here.....

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:45 pm
by bogged
marin wrote:
DAMKIA wrote:Vibration work hardening the braiding? Was the hose well supported, ie. a "spring" over the hose like they do with the rubber tubes?
No spring, but it was only a month old. I have suspicions from what somebody has told me, but can't say much on here.....
What brand?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:50 am
by 4RUNNER_01
Got any pics?

You'd probably assume poor workmanship as stated before or the obvious too short and getting pulled.

Did this happen on or off road?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:45 pm
by bru21
they are easy to put on wrong on a gq/gu and they limit the steering - and fail.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:32 pm
by marin
These lines are ADR approved and, as checked by a brake shop and the rep from the company, installed correctly.

And please, no more PM's. I'm not going to tell you what company. Sorry. That would end up with me getting accused of slander or something like that.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:53 pm
by bogged
marin wrote:These lines are ADR approved and, as checked by a brake shop and the rep from the company, installed correctly.

And please, no more PM's. I'm not going to tell you what company. Sorry. That would end up with me getting accused of slander or something like that.
I dont think it would.. I think it could save some poor Vageena from killing him and his family.

It cannot be slander if your telling the truth and 100% fact from start to end.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:17 am
by 4RUNNER_01
Yea sounds like the sorta thing that should be named unless its found to be your fault.

Like simple thing would be if you said it happened offroad flexed up in a rut and hadn't checked if the lines were long enough but that's not normally an issue on patrols is it?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:57 am
by ricky1970
Think you will find the crimp is at fault. Used an Oz made brand of screw on braided teflon hose fittings quite a bit and never had a falure of a hose end. Seen one of these hoses torn in half from an open wheeler racing acident where the wheel/stub/control arms left the vehicle, but the hose broke nowhere the ends.

The screw on fittings hold on via the stainless braid and only seal on the inner tube, crimp fittings crush the lot. The screw on fittings may not be ADR approved but would personaly put more faith in them then crimps on braided teflon hose.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:05 am
by nottie
4RUNNER_01 wrote:
Like simple thing would be if you said it happened offroad flexed up in a rut and hadn't checked if the lines were long enough but that's not normally an issue on patrols is it?
GOLD And so so true

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:57 pm
by +dj_hansen+
nottie wrote:
4RUNNER_01 wrote:
Like simple thing would be if you said it happened offroad flexed up in a rut and hadn't checked if the lines were long enough but that's not normally an issue on patrols is it?
GOLD And so so true
If he was talking the chassis to diff line, understandable, but the lines Marin is having trouble with are between the housing and the caliper.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:45 pm
by marin
+dj_hansen+ wrote:
nottie wrote:
4RUNNER_01 wrote:
Like simple thing would be if you said it happened offroad flexed up in a rut and hadn't checked if the lines were long enough but that's not normally an issue on patrols is it?
GOLD And so so true
If he was talking the chassis to diff line, understandable, but the lines Marin is having trouble with are between the housing and the caliper.
Thank god somebody actually read my first post.

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:35 pm
by Look'n 4 Mud
That is astounding.

I have a full set of braided DOT rated lines on my GQ and they are great.

My understanding is that the DOT rating requires a standard of excellence to a minimum of ADR. Blowing a standard brake hose there is unfortunate but bloody unlucky. For you to blow 2 braided lines in a month is extraordinary.

was it the same wheel?

The Manufacturer will be as concerned about this as you are i am sure mate and his DOT approval is on the line. I would think that he would be investigating the cause of these failures comprehensively as he may be looking at a recall of his products for safety.

Is anyone other than the manufacturer and or supplier and you involved? ie. VACC or whoever oversees vehicle safety.??

DOT rated is DOT rated. These are considered a massive upgrade over standard not just a replacement part.

Really keen to hear how this pans out mate and i agree that naming the brand at this stage will serve no purpose.

I have a Sports Bike riding background and Braided lines are standard fitment on many bikes now as they are far far superior and many guys were doing the non ADR approved upgrade to get the performance

Please continue to post the details as they happen here as many people will be waiting to hear how you go.