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Getting into 4x4
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:29 pm
by stumcg
Hi guys, so i'm wanting to get into offroading and i'm pretty set on a sierra.
i was after some tips on what to look for and what is needed.
any advise on what other cars i should have look at would be good too
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:49 pm
by eldo
give us a run down on what you plan to do in it first
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:57 pm
by stumcg
nothing too crazy, wanting to do some travelling in it.
nothing specific, family is pretty into it, they just do day trips to anywhere and go around australia once a year, so i wanna jump on board
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:05 pm
by atari4x4
stumcg wrote:nothing too crazy, wanting to do some travelling in it.
nothing specific, family is pretty into it, they just do day trips to anywhere and go around australia once a year, so i wanna jump on board
If you plan to do some real touring I would look at a well set up LWB Vitara, they can be built into a very capable 4wd with the right mods & are so much more comfortable & have heaps more space than a Sierra.
Have a look through my build up thread for some ideas...
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic162392.php
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:32 pm
by stumcg
hi atari, thanks for that. i had a look and they look like an awesome little forby, what do you think i'd pay for a decent one?
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:35 pm
by stumcg
also what year model?
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:11 pm
by mrRocky
What is your budget for modifications as vitara stuff can be more expensive than sierra gear. But i agree they make for a much better tourer that a sierra.
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:13 pm
by stumcg
no budget yet.
what i had in mind was lift and a/t tyres to start with just to get used to driving it and knowing my own limits really.
But i'm only 19 and don't get paid alot
so moding is going to be timely.
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:23 pm
by atari4x4
stumcg wrote:hi atari, thanks for that. i had a look and they look like an awesome little forby, what do you think i'd pay for a decent one?
mine is 1997, it's last of the first shape with the 2.0l twin cam 4cyl SWB, the LWB's came out with a 2.0l twin cam 6cyl V6.
price is depending on how many km's & the condition, check out all the online car sales places to get an idea of price VS condition.
the mod's i'd be looking at would be the OME lift kit + 2" body lift & 30" A/T or M/T & air lockers for when you start taking on more difficult terrain.
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:28 pm
by stumcg
mine is 1997, it's last of the first shape with the 2.0l twin cam 4cyl SWB, the LWB's came out with a 2.0l twin cam 6cyl V6.
cheers for that
i've found a few older ones that look alright. just gotta get out there and drive a few i guess!
thanks for all the help.
when i finally get one ill start a thread with everything and what im gonna do and hopefully get some other young blokes into it
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:39 pm
by atari4x4
stumcg wrote:mine is 1997, it's last of the first shape with the 2.0l twin cam 4cyl SWB, the LWB's came out with a 2.0l twin cam 6cyl V6.
cheers for that
i've found a few older ones that look alright. just gotta get out there and drive a few i guess!
thanks for all the help.
when i finally get one ill start a thread with everything and what im gonna do and hopefully get some other young blokes into it
hey, i'm not that much older than you....
hang on, maybe +10
take a few for a test drive, LWB, SWB, manual/auto the early ones are 1.6 & keep an eye out for a clean one that has been looked after.
check for rust, 4wd damage etc & make sure the free wheeling hubs & 4wd work
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:40 pm
by Gwagensteve
stumcg-
The best first step is to come along to a suzuki club meeting. There's plenty of young members in the club. Whilst the internet is great for tech and ideas, you can't put that information into context unless you actually get out and see what suzuki drivers are doing with the cars, in your local terrain.
http://vic.suzuki4wd.com
While a sierra is pretty much the ultimate day trip car, they suck at long distance work.
A vitara is quite a comfortable touring car, but won't realistically be able to stay with a sierra on a hard track, and it will take more money to try and more money for maintain.
It's always a compromise.
Steve.
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:01 pm
by alien
i did a 2 and a half hour roud trip on saturday in mine (sierra, lifted etc etc) - and without the 1.6 conversion it would have been unbearable - things you'll encounter in a sierra:
- underpowered (wont hold 110 up hills, especially if you have headwind!)
- easily moved by wind (mines got a half-soft top and still i stuggle to stay in my lane with a hard crosswind.
- jolty - mines softer than stock with bucket seats and still, after an hour you really need a break to stretch out.
- noisy - a huge factor contributing to fatigue, and there isnt much you can do about it.
- potentially leaky - many causes, obviously soft tops are worse (strong wind and rain together with speed usually will make for water getting in somehow.
on the other hand, like everyone's said - theyre just a weapon offroad for day trips etc.... mines my DD and i wouldnt have it any other way despite the negatives - but given a long country drive - i'd be bumming a lift off a mate with a landcruiser or pooptroll...
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:24 pm
by mrRocky
Just man up and buy a sierra, we all know vitara's are hair dressers cars
Put some comfy seats in it and some bigger tyres and you will be fine.
If you like wearing your collar up and waxing your legs then a vitara is the car for you.
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:51 pm
by stumcg
cheers guys
Tips on where to get a cheap sierra?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:07 pm
by eXc
mrRocky wrote:Just man up and buy a sierra, ...Put some comfy seats
Bit of a clash there me thinks! Man up, but sook on the seats :p haha