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Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:59 pm
by collins110
Im getting sick of blowing diffs and having inverted leafs and stupid rear drum... i want to build my lux into a comp truck and im wondering if there would be any chassis that i could dump the lux body onto?
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:08 pm
by booflux
collins110 wrote:Im getting sick of blowing diffs and having inverted leafs and stupid rear drum... i want to build my lux into a comp truck and im wondering if there would be any chassis that i could dump the lux body onto?
Yep it can be done but you will need to make sure you have an engineer involved from the get go. Also make sure you can do the work or at least a large portion of it yourself as that is what will cost you a LOT.
Daz on here has an awesome example of a Lux on an 80 chassis in the members thread.
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:10 pm
by collins110
booflux wrote:collins110 wrote:Im getting sick of blowing diffs and having inverted leafs and stupid rear drum... i want to build my lux into a comp truck and im wondering if there would be any chassis that i could dump the lux body onto?
Yep it can be done but you will need to make sure you have an engineer involved from the get go. Also make sure you can do the work or at least a large portion of it yourself as that is what will cost you a LOT.
Daz on here has an awesome example of a Lux on an 80 chassis in the members thread.
do you think this would be easier than replacing diffs, coil conversion, chassis supporting?
and just using the 80 series running gear?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:22 pm
by collins110
is there any other chassis that are coiled that the lux body could go onto? something older maybe?
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:41 pm
by booflux
collins110 wrote:booflux wrote:collins110 wrote:Im getting sick of blowing diffs and having inverted leafs and stupid rear drum... i want to build my lux into a comp truck and im wondering if there would be any chassis that i could dump the lux body onto?
Yep it can be done but you will need to make sure you have an engineer involved from the get go. Also make sure you can do the work or at least a large portion of it yourself as that is what will cost you a LOT.
Daz on here has an awesome example of a Lux on an 80 chassis in the members thread.
do you think this would be easier than replacing diffs, coil conversion, chassis supporting?
and just using the 80 series running gear?
In some ways its easier, all depends on your skill level and what you can and cant do in your state.
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:54 pm
by collins110
booflux wrote:
In some ways its easier, all depends on your skill level and what you can and cant do in your state.
well if i can get a cheap 80 series chassis with turbo diesel it will save me from doing coil conversion, diff swap, chassis strengthening, working out power steer, getting stronger CV's and Axels, doing a driveline lift and doing a engine swap. if i manage to pull this off all i would need is a suspension lift, body lift, comp tray, bucket seats, tyres, diff lockers.
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:26 pm
by craz3d
collins110 wrote:booflux wrote:
In some ways its easier, all depends on your skill level and what you can and cant do in your state.
well if i can get a cheap 80 series chassis with turbo diesel it will save me from doing coil conversion, diff swap, chassis strengthening, working out power steer, getting stronger CV's and Axels, doing a driveline lift and doing a engine swap. if i manage to pull this off all i would need is a suspension lift, body lift, comp tray, bucket seats, tyres, diff lockers.
This is a good idea, and not to rat on boofs or daz's work, as it's looking fantastic, but in my eyes i see this as really a killjoy. Because at that point, you're driving a slightly lightened 80 seires, not a hilux anymore.
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:58 pm
by booflux
craz3d wrote:collins110 wrote:booflux wrote:
In some ways its easier, all depends on your skill level and what you can and cant do in your state.
well if i can get a cheap 80 series chassis with turbo diesel it will save me from doing coil conversion, diff swap, chassis strengthening, working out power steer, getting stronger CV's and Axels, doing a driveline lift and doing a engine swap. if i manage to pull this off all i would need is a suspension lift, body lift, comp tray, bucket seats, tyres, diff lockers.
This is a good idea, and not to rat on boofs or daz's work, as it's looking fantastic, but in my eyes i see this as really a killjoy. Because at that point, you're driving a slightly lightened 80 seires, not a hilux anymore.
I see your point but at least to those that dont know it still looks like a Lux. And in the case of Dazs it looks extremely cool as well.
Also from what I have found its a LOT easier to get a low ride height this way than to work off the Lux chassis, which imo is a good thing.
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:33 pm
by +dj_hansen+
Calling thrashlux
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:33 pm
by collins110
craz3d wrote:
This is a good idea, and not to rat on boofs or daz's work, as it's looking fantastic, but in my eyes i see this as really a killjoy. Because at that point, you're driving a slightly lightened 80 seires, not a hilux anymore.
i dont really care what is under it i just like the lux look better then any other 4wd body
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:13 pm
by chunderlicious
collins110 wrote:craz3d wrote:
This is a good idea, and not to rat on boofs or daz's work, as it's looking fantastic, but in my eyes i see this as really a killjoy. Because at that point, you're driving a slightly lightened 80 seires, not a hilux anymore.
i dont really care what is under it i just like the lux look better then any other 4wd body
cant agree more.. ln106 bodies look hot... mine is getting long travel ifs grafted onto the front just for something different... i looked into the 80s chassis and it is pretty simple, just need t do body mounts... with a bit of thought they would be pretty simple
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:20 pm
by Weiner
How are you blowing diffs running 33"s ad a 2.2 petrol?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:38 pm
by collins110
Weiner wrote:How are you blowing diffs running 33"s ad a 2.2 petrol?
31's 2.2 and lockers ... dont know how i managed it but all i know is i did
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:05 pm
by Weiner
collins110 wrote:Weiner wrote:How are you blowing diffs running 33"s ad a 2.2 petrol?
31's 2.2 and lockers ... dont know how i managed it but all i know is i did
Maybe get a different place to set up the diffs.
I have done 1 crownwheel on 32"s and it was only because of water in the diff for a long time.
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:30 pm
by collins110
Weiner wrote:
31's 2.2 and lockers ... dont know how i managed it but all i know is i did
Maybe get a different place to set up the diffs.
I have done 1 crownwheel on 32"s and it was only because of water in the diff for a long time.[/quote]
this is the first time its done it ... oh well ill get it all fixed and see if anyone will buy the chassis and running gear off me
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:37 pm
by thrashlux
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:40 pm
by johnsy86
yeah blowing diffs on 33s geez something not right there myself and mates are running 37s on lux diffs fine only braking mayb 1 a year, i broke an input on transfer before i broke a diff, lux drivelines arnt as weak as u think.
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:29 am
by thrashlux
this is my old truck
it has 79 series cruiser front end and surf rear all coiled then airbaged
i use all 80 series links fro rear and 79 series spring mounts etc
it was good, really good
but the 80 series chassis'd truck is far supieror for hi speed and also chassis flex is much less, its a much better choice
legally depending on what model lux u want (before 90) the easiest would be to fit it to a range rover of the same year (i dont like em) but later u could fitt toyota diffs
rangies have a good rear axle mounting design ie a frame standard would be easier to get engineered due to it being the same vintage
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:29 am
by collins110
thrashlux wrote:this is my old truck
it has 79 series cruiser front end and surf rear all coiled then airbaged
i use all 80 series links fro rear and 79 series spring mounts etc
it was good, really good
but the 80 series chassis'd truck is far supieror for hi speed and also chassis flex is much less, its a much better choice
legally depending on what model lux u want (before 90) the easiest would be to fit it to a range rover of the same year (i dont like em) but later u could fitt toyota diffs
rangies have a good rear axle mounting design ie a frame standard would be easier to get engineered due to it being the same vintage
i want to put my 86 (yn67) onto any strong chassis 4wd with coils... if i can get an 80 series with body damage for cheap then ill go that way but if not i may have to settle for a range rover
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:58 pm
by thrashlux
collins110 wrote:thrashlux wrote:this is my old truck
it has 79 series cruiser front end and surf rear all coiled then airbaged
i use all 80 series links fro rear and 79 series spring mounts etc
it was good, really good
but the 80 series chassis'd truck is far supieror for hi speed and also chassis flex is much less, its a much better choice
legally depending on what model lux u want (before 90) the easiest would be to fit it to a range rover of the same year (i dont like em) but later u could fitt toyota diffs
rangies have a good rear axle mounting design ie a frame standard would be easier to get engineered due to it being the same vintage
i want to put my 86 (yn67) onto any strong chassis 4wd with coils... if i can get an 80 series with body damage for cheap then ill go that way but if not i may have to settle for a range rover
ok do u need it to get regoed? that is your no.1 question
the next thing is i doubt u will get the hilux body on over 80 series running gear without moving the drivetrain
u will not fit the radiator in the engine bay with a landcruiser straight six
ultimately what drive train combination do u really want petrol or diesel
i have 2 trucks 1 diesel and 1 petrol
for me the diesel is more suited to long distance touring
the petrol as a powerhouse for ultimate off road ability with its much broader rev range and higher power output to flick the mud out of the tyres
but the lux body is the best thing once u have it on there lighter better approach angle, clearance and IMHO looks heaps better
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:14 am
by bj on roids
What gearbox and t-case are you running behind the 2J-z?
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:29 am
by thrashlux
bj on roids wrote:What gearbox and t-case are you running behind the 2J-z?
its a bit of everything
td bundy r150 (154 came out in supra)
transfer is 60 series split case (full manual no vacume) with pto adapter for hydraulic pump
out put shaft and rear shaft out put is from late 45 series (to get the transbrake)
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:19 am
by booflux
I agree with Thrashlux that using the cruiser engine in an older Lux cab will be tight, the newest shape cabs though are huge.
If it were me I would sell your current one off whole and start from scratch with a rolling chassis, cab of choice and engine and driveline of choice also
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:44 pm
by mike_nofx
collins110 wrote:Im getting sick of blowing diffs...
collins110 wrote:
...this is the first time its done it ... oh well ill get it all fixed and see if anyone will buy the chassis and running gear off me
So for you "sick of blowing diffs" is blowing one diff?
And blowing one diff makes you feel you need a complete chassis and driveline swap?
Inverted leaves... do some research and spend a few bucks fixing up your suspension set up. I haven't owned a hilux before but i have seen some very good set ups.
Drum rear... having trouble pulling the 2.2 up from its 95km/h top speed? Seriously tho, drums aren't as bad as theyre made out to be. Certainly dont warrant a chassis swap.
Im not trying to have a go at you, but just helping you decide wether you actually need this or not.
Mike
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:27 pm
by craz3d
double post
Re: Hilux Body Onto Patrol, Landcruiser, LandRover chassis?
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:27 pm
by craz3d
mike_nofx wrote:collins110 wrote:Im getting sick of blowing diffs...
collins110 wrote:
...this is the first time its done it ... oh well ill get it all fixed and see if anyone will buy the chassis and running gear off me
So for you "sick of blowing diffs" is blowing one diff?
And blowing one diff makes you feel you need a complete chassis and driveline swap?
Inverted leaves... do some research and spend a few bucks fixing up your suspension set up. I haven't owned a hilux before but i have seen some very good set ups.
Drum rear... having trouble pulling the 2.2 up from its 95km/h top speed? Seriously tho, drums aren't as bad as theyre made out to be. Certainly dont warrant a chassis swap.
Im not trying to have a go at you, but just helping you decide wether you actually need this or not.
Mike
The 2.2 will easily get to 125km/h. I've had mine up to 140km/h.. briefly. It's the scariest thing I've ever done
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:00 am
by MogLux
johnsy86 wrote:yeah blowing diffs on 33s geez something not right there myself and mates are running 37s on lux diffs fine only braking mayb 1 a year, i broke an input on transfer before i broke a diff, lux drivelines arnt as weak as u think.
I run 42's on a Luxy rear diff and high pinion froint diff and have only ever blown 1 diff and that was the 80 series high pinion. So your diff must have been on its way out mate.