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Im in the process of organising a few mods that will require engineering in QLD. Before I go too far with it, I need to know if an engineers certificate and mod plate in QLD will do for when i change addresses and rego over to another state.

My job see's me move around AUS a fair bit so changing rego's and states is a frequent thing.

Do mods need to be re-engineered or do they transfer over ?

Cheers

Pretty sure Engineering certs cannot be transferred I am afraid.

i think they can as it has to abide by ADRs or what ever it is.. but i have heard of it being done.. actually i think the thread like 2 under this says it can be,,

Copied from Fully Engineered 80 series thread:

"The biggest hurdle you'll come up against will be when you attempt to transfer the registration to another state, the 'engineering certificates' will NOT be valid, they are only valid for the state of the original registration, so you'll HAVE to get it all re-engineered for your state.

QLD does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
NSW does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
S.A does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
Vic does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
N.T does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
W.A does NOT accept other states engineering certificates"

Petes wrote:Copied from Fully Engineered 80 series thread:

"The biggest hurdle you'll come up against will be when you attempt to transfer the registration to another state, the 'engineering certificates' will NOT be valid, they are only valid for the state of the original registration, so you'll HAVE to get it all re-engineered for your state.

QLD does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
NSW does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
S.A does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
Vic does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
N.T does NOT accept other states engineering certificates
W.A does NOT accept other states engineering certificates"

thats NOT entirely true.

I know of one person that had the NICE people at either VIC or QLD transport fax through documentation of the engineers certificate for a vehicle that was stil registered and LEGAL in that state to NSW. the RTA accepted that paperwork and registrered the vehicle as is with mods approved.

this was apparently heaps of messing around and being VERY VERY nice to the persons on both sides.

Jes

Mate did a dual cab conversion on an NSW registered GU at his Victorian factory... He got it enginerered in Vic, then bloke who owned it, went back to NSW rego office, and they wouldnt accept it. Needed re-engineering.

bogged wrote:Mate did a dual cab conversion on an NSW registered GU at his Victorian factory... He got it enginerered in Vic, then bloke who owned it, went back to NSW rego office, and they wouldnt accept it. Needed re-engineering.

yeah i recently had to re-engineer a patrol that we purchased with an QLD mod plated injected 5 litre. i did not have the origional paperwork for the QLD mod plate, otherwise i would have been able to have it passed

jes

I think it would depend on what has been engineered as to whether the cert would carry over. Some things maybe fine while others would either be non engineerable, don't need engineering approval or would need to be checked again due to a whole raft of reasons like making sure it is all above board, different testing methods and standards and a general stuff you up royally in a purely bureaucratic way

jessie928 wrote:

bogged wrote:Mate did a dual cab conversion on an NSW registered GU at his Victorian factory... He got it enginerered in Vic, then bloke who owned it, went back to NSW rego office, and they wouldnt accept it. Needed re-engineering.

yeah i recently had to re-engineer a patrol that we purchased with an QLD mod plated injected 5 litre. i did not have the origional paperwork for the QLD mod plate, otherwise i would have been able to have it passed

jes

X2 on this, i just had to re-do all of my engineering papers from qld to nsw, they wouldnt accept the papers but most of the design standards were the same qld to nsw

Sounds like a massive pain in the arse then.

Having to engineer and re-engineer , what if the next states engineer did not like the previous ones work ?

If my legally engineered vehicle crosses the border from NSW to any other state due to the paperwork not being recognized my registration and insurance becomes nil and void?


eg An engineer in Vic has certified a retrofit of seatbelts on a 10yr old coach previously not fitted with them. It is legally regoed in Vic. 6 months later the coach is used to take a group of school kids on an interstate journey, it crashes whilst over the border in NSW. Is the coach covered by insurance.


When you get a degree in engineering does it state that you are only allowed to work in the state you have graduated in? If the documentation stating that you are a qualified engineer is valid why isn't your work?

If this is true where does it leave caravans, horse floats or any other trailor. What about government owned vehicles like garbage trucks, buses, police cars, interstate trucks, the defence force, SES, fire trucks, trains. etc........

I just sold my ute & its going to WA the transport company over there said they would accept it as long it was engineered to the ADRs which is an Australian standard
Vic will also accept an NSW enginerred car
This is what I found out
Cheers Dan

when i bought a vic engineered car the NSW rta checked to see if the engineer was recognised here in NSW. Took a photocopy of certificate to NSW RTA, they checked it up the engineers details and all was sweet.

Best bet would be to do something similiar, that way you know for sure. IF you travel around, all you need to say is your living away from your home base temporarily. Had cops hassle me as they knew my car, knew i worked at a servo,etc,etc. I had ACT license and rego and lived in NSW for well over a year, cops new it but admitted as long as i kept using the word temporarily they couldnt/ wouldnt touch me.

I bought a V8 GQ from the ACT, is was engineered there.
I spoke to Vicroads before i went ahead with the purchuse, and all i had to do was get a rwc and change the reg over to Vic rego, is was very straight forward.

Grant.

GUEEY wrote:I bought a V8 GQ from the ACT, is was engineered there.
I spoke to Vicroads before i went ahead with the purchuse, and all i had to do was get a rwc and change the reg over to Vic rego, is was very straight forward.

Grant.

IMHO thats all that should need to be done nationally.

I'm assuming based on this that the engineers reports that have come from other states and been accepted into NSW have been done by engineers from other states that are also approved in NSW.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... r_2009.pdf

Surely there must be some nationally accredited engineering signatories? Even if they were twice the price you'd still be making a profit

Slunnie wrote:I'm assuming based on this that the engineers reports that have come from other states and been accepted into NSW have been done by engineers from other states that are also approved in NSW.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... r_2009.pdf

Woohoo!

The engineer who did my Paj is on the list!

Anybody wanna buy it? Fully engineered!

Slunnie wrote:I'm assuming based on this that the engineers reports that have come from other states and been accepted into NSW have been done by engineers from other states that are also approved in NSW.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... r_2009.pdf

Only if the certificate is in the NSW format, with the statement about complying with the Road Vehicle (Vehicle Registration) Regulation 2007 (or 1998 if the certificate is 1999 - 2007, or Motor Traffic Regulations if pre-1999).

From experience, if a certificate is on the rego of a NSW registered vehicle and the other state authority don't dislike something about the vehicle (eg suspension lift height), it's accepted for rego most of the time. If it's not on NSW rego papers, it's rarely accepted.

I've been told that ACT tend to add engineers to their list if they see a NSW certificate that they're happy with. Without applying, I'm apparently on the ACT list because I certified a roll cage in an ACT registered Patrol wagon for mine site use...