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Just wondering if anyone has an NGK powerdex AFX installed as this is my preference to date. I am inclined to think that for NGK to put their name on it, it would have to be a fully developed and engineered product.

You can get these for abot $240 US on ebay.

Any comments?

http://www.ngk.com/afx/

No idea on the NGK.

I'm running the AEM UEGO:

AEM



It's awesome. Fast, plug and play harness, awesome quality and cheaper than the LC-1 whilst having a dual display!

I use a techedge myself. The same sort of price range you're looking at.
The downside is the cost of replacement L1H1 sensors. The recommended replacement interval is ~200hrs. Any excessively rich cars or incorrect heating will kill it in less time.

techedge...... choose you model correctly and they do LOTS more if that's of interest.

i'm using a wideband BOSCH sensor and its lasting well ( its a production part after all... )

I've been looking at the Innovate LC1's as I can remove the gauge later if need be and still have the analogue converter for the ECU (looking at a mega squirt someday). The beauty of the kits with std 52mm gauges is that they can be mounted in any gauge pod where as those AFX ones look like they need to be stuck down with double sided tape.

But I hadn't seen Techedges DIY kits before, only their pre-made stuff and the lovely price tags that go with it. I'll have to look into it more.
http://wbo2.com/2y/default.htm

And Silicon Chip have just recently published a project that does wideband.

Its implemented properly ( unlike the earlier narrow band "jokes" ) and conforms to all the manufactures specifications. Was pleasantly surprised by just how well thought out it was.

Perhaps worth a look if your DIY inclined.....

It all depends what you need.

My AEM has an analog output, which plugs directly into my maft pro and it controls A/F tracking as I drive. It has digital and LED sweep display on a good looking gauge that comes with three different faces and two different bezels (customise appearance, white/black/silver, A/F or Lambda display.) And it uses a reliable, easy to replace need be, Bosch wideband sensor.

And they're under $300. If you have a computer that can adjust fuelling, it should have it's own software and logging features, so the extra expense of the LC-1 isn't needed IMO (I was going to buy LC-1 for months, till I did research.) AEM is huge in the states FYI.

MightyMouse wrote:And Silicon Chip have just recently published a project that does wideband.

Its implemented properly ( unlike the earlier narrow band "jokes" ) and conforms to all the manufactures specifications. Was pleasantly surprised by just how well thought out it was.

Perhaps worth a look if your DIY inclined.....

I saw this recently but was unsure if Altronics or jaycar had started selling the kits???

-Nemesis- wrote:My AEM has an analog output, which plugs directly into my maft pro and it controls A/F tracking as I drive.

All the kits mentioned here have the 5V analogue out. But the AEM seems to be the best value if your after just a simple oxygen sensor kit.

I'm really liking the techedge kit from what I've read already. And it appears to be an Aussie company

Yeah Techedge is Aussie, has been around for a long time.

Just ordered a powerdex AFX. i'll soon see how it goes.

I just installed an Innovate motorsports LC-1 in the comp truck, plugs straight into the Serial 2 port of the adaptronic ECU. Very happy so far, will report back after this weekend's drive. Have used the LC-1 before both as just a wideband output to a gauge, as well as dirrect into an ECU for self tuning and logging purposes with good results.

Layto....

-Nemesis- wrote:It all depends what you need.

My AEM has an analog output, which plugs directly into my maft pro and it controls A/F tracking as I drive. It has digital and LED sweep display on a good looking gauge that comes with three different faces and two different bezels (customise appearance, white/black/silver, A/F or Lambda display.) And it uses a reliable, easy to replace need be, Bosch wideband sensor.

And they're under $300. If you have a computer that can adjust fuelling, it should have it's own software and logging features, so the extra expense of the LC-1 isn't needed IMO (I was going to buy LC-1 for months, till I did research.) AEM is huge in the states FYI.

I also run the AEM, no probs to date. does what its supposed to do!

I have the AEM digital gauge in my falcon, the tuner said it was 1-2 units out compared to his Autronic AFR meter on the dyno.

BTW an Autronic gauge is $1800

lay80n wrote:I just installed an Innovate motorsports LC-1 in the comp truck, plugs straight into the Serial 2 port of the adaptronic ECU. Very happy so far, will report back after this weekend's drive. Have used the LC-1 before both as just a wideband output to a gauge, as well as dirrect into an ECU for self tuning and logging purposes with good results.

Layto....

Did a fair bit of tuning on the weekend at Milbrodale. LC1 performed great.


Layto....