Outer Limits 4x4 Board

snapped one of the six tonight, whilst intalling the muddies (33's) for the weekend..
i was planning on taking it out on sunday, i'm just wondering;

a) is it safe (enough) to head out on 5 studs? (on the rear passenger side)


b) how much time/effort/funds is involved in fixing it? (i'm semi-mechanical)

i've done a search, but didnt really find a whole lot on it..
cheers
Skipper

a) should be safe depends how hard ya drive

b) to fix i would drill it out and do a 10mm conversion on the whole hub that way you won't break them again, do a search there is a bit on ere about it

bushwalker wrote:a) should be safe depends how hard ya drive

b) to fix i would drill it out and do a 10mm conversion on the whole hub that way you won't break them again, do a search there is a bit on ere about it

I think he's talking about the wheel studs and not the axle studs

OP you need to look at the reason why it snapped the stud and decide if the same cause has been done to the others and their likely hood to snap also. If it's because that one only has been overtightened for example and the others havn't then there's no reason you can't run on 5 only. But if for any reason you think the others are likely to snap also then i'd be changing them out.

It's not a hard job. Take off the bearing hub assembly, and belt the old ones out with a hammer. Then turn it over and punch the new ones in. As long as you have no issues with other parts it can be done in 2-3 hours.

as above, if they have been regularly overtightened (most are) running on only 5 will increase the load on all the others which could be in similar state to the one that snapped.

I lost a front wheel at 80 with no warning on my 80series, was exciting at the time and lucky no one was hurt.

80's_delirious wrote:as above, if they have been regularly overtightened (most are) running on only 5 will increase the load on all the others which could be in similar state to the one that snapped.

I lost a front wheel at 80 with no warning on my 80series, was exciting at the time and lucky no one was hurt.

shit mate, way to put the wind up me haha.
yeah i ended up replacing it, but by the sounds of it.. i should've have replaced them all.

thanks for the help guys

good choice mate. I took the risk once. Lost 4 more just after i hopped off the freeway, scary as sh1t Could have been lots worse.

a mate run 4 studs on his bunky 80 for aabout 9 months but only 31's

GO79 wrote:a mate run 4 studs on his bunky 80 for aabout 9 months but only 31's

Don't encourage him.

Replace them all.

being stuck in the scrub and limping home is a completely different thing to knowing you have damaged studs, having the opportunity to fix them, and doing nothing.

its not a hard job, they are not expensive. could be catastrophic if they fail at speed.

if they are not changed now,

You fail at life

and you shall die

80's_delirious wrote:being stuck in the scrub and limping home is a completely different thing to knowing you have damaged studs, having the opportunity to fix them, and doing nothing.

its not a hard job, they are not expensive. could be catastrophic if they fail at speed.

Im sure scrub driving would be more harsh to straining 4 studs than road driving

But yes its not hard nor expensive and should be done asap ... as i said with my mates it was a bunkie bush hack but was still driven on roads so it should have been done aswell

Z()LTAN wrote:if they are not changed now,

You fail at life

and you shall die

Jeezus dude. chillout.

At least the guy is smart enough to ask the question. How many dumbasdogshit drivers are out there that drive their piles of crap into the ground and couldn't care less about maintenance or don't even know any better.

Not everybody is a super duper dieselfitterfabricatorracedriverfitterandturner. I'm willing to bet you started from somewhere noob at one point too.

Think about it...

Driving along the road one Sunday afternoon...

Your doing 110 down the highway, your wheel falls off...

The hub digs into the road and throws you into oncoming traffic...

You plow into a car headed the opposite direction...

A family returning from a nice trip together...

Mother, father 2 kids in the back...

The parents die on impact, the kids however endure hours of pain until they also die.

You survive, you broke your back... You wish you broke more...

All of this because you didn't replace a $6 stud or 2...

Been in plenty of cars with missing studs that way for years (fairlane used to do it all the time).

Slow down a little.

Let some air out of your tyres off road.

No worries.

Paul

Hey Skipper,

How did you go?

You could get away with it for a while, depending on how much the others have been stressed. Overtightening with a rattle gun kills them... Piece of mind is worth a lot to me - I know what I would do and I think you do too.

Cheers

half the prob is d1ckheads at tyre shops rattle gunning the heck out of them

GO79 wrote:

80's_delirious wrote:being stuck in the scrub and limping home is a completely different thing to knowing you have damaged studs, having the opportunity to fix them, and doing nothing.

its not a hard job, they are not expensive. could be catastrophic if they fail at speed.

Im sure scrub driving would be more harsh to straining 4 studs than road driving

But yes its not hard nor expensive and should be done asap ... as i said with my mates it was a bunkie bush hack but was still driven on roads so it should have been done aswell

Do you reckon??

Think about it. 2.8t of landcruiser hooking into a corner at 110km/hr, there is going to be a lot of load on the studs, and the consequences are going to be far more serious than losing a wheel crawling rocks or flogging it through mud etc.

I lost a front wheel at 80km/hr, the wheel overtook me and went 100-150m hit a traffic island, launched 2m in the air and then hit a guard rail which stopped it from rolling into traffic doing 110 on the freeway. definitely brown undies material.
It was lucky there was no traffic coming the other way when my tyre launched off the traffic island, 40-50kg of tyre through a family sedan windscreen would make a farking mess.

DNA Off Road wrote:Hey Skipper,

How did you go?

You could get away with it for a while, depending on how much the others have been stressed. Overtightening with a rattle gun kills them... Piece of mind is worth a lot to me - I know what I would do and I think you do too.

Cheers

so far i've only replaced one.. i'm planning on replacing the others when i've got a free day. It doesn't get driven too much, and when it is driven, it is ussually just locally. Will definitely get them done before i take it offroad again.