Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hey guys i posted a topic ages ago asking about hilux diffs in a zooki vitara and if it could be done and most silly ppl had there say so for those who gave good advice and helped me out this is for them to show how far ive got so far hope u like it....ill probly still get silly ppl having there say but such is life hahaaha!!!!!!!!GO THE ZUKS!!!!!!!



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haha...................ummmm.............will you be my friend?

yeah man u own a zooki and u dont seem like a d-head

don't worry....i've been called worse. but you might want to make you're pics more accesible. maybe photobucket or similar?

Fail.



Build threads.... they're harder than you think.

ill put it off private sorri guys didnt realise see if it works then

preecy wrote:ill put it off private sorri guys didnt realise see if it works then

i've got no time for this facespace thingo, start a build up thread for all to see...

fucken sorri im not a computer wizz

preecy wrote: this is for them to show how far ive got so far hope u like it...

I don't see a thing mate where are the pics of this "Luxtara"??

Hey dude, looks like a pretty serious machine you have there! Has it been out yet? Does it hold up?

Hey mate, you were talking to me at Toperi bout this thing. Good to see some pics.

Layto....

lay80n- yeah its getting there i want to have it going soon hopfully , sorri but who were u again sorri mate i was talkin about it to lots of ppl lol


exc-thanx mate ,not as of yet mate it still needs a rear t-shaft,reducion gears,front shocks and few other things but i will let use know once i hav taken it out dont expect it soon tho lol

How close to final spring specs is this? If the spring rates are correct front to rear, and there's no obvious bind in the front suspension, you REALLY need to increase rear roll stiffness, probably with a sway bar. On compound angles (i.e climbing+side angle) that's going to get very spooky set up like that. You should be looking for about 50% of the articulation being done by the front end when flexed like that.

If you are aware of this and the front is locked out or something at the momet, that's cool.

Oh, and I'm not crazy about the mismatched angles between the panhard and drag link - you might find the bumpsteer is excessive.

I like the general look of it and the stance though.

Steve.

PS just checked another photo and it looks like you have calmini front springs in the front at the moment. They might be a good length, but they have about 100% too much rate for what you are looking for. Try the rear springs from the calmini kit in the front, or any other vitara rear springs you can find.

yeah thanx for u oppion mate umm there 2inch lovells in the front i tryed the rear one there just the same , ill take ur oppion abored thanx mate

Air shocks aren't known for adding roll stiffness. Take the springs out of the front and try again. ( I assume you have bumpstops in there - with bumpstops only the front should have very low roll stiffness and flex well - If the front still doesn't flex well then you need to look at if the front is binding somewhere.

You'll notice that the front springs are much further outboard than the rear airshocks. At the moment, when you flex the rear end, you're probably getting twice the movement at the tyre than travel on the airshock. That means that the roll stiffness on the rear is almost nothing and that's why even with very soft springs in the front, it still won't flex.

Big flex is nothing without balance. To get balance, you need to add roll stiffness to the rear. Don't try to take it all out of the front - you will end up with a loose, floppy dog of a car to drive. There's two ways you could do it easily - move your airshocks right out - try and get the bottom mount as close to the wheels as possible, and don't lay them over too far. You might still end up running a swaybar in the rear though to force the front to work.

Why is it important to make the front work? Well, as you drive on to something with your current setup, the front will dictate the angle the body sits on. That will mean that the high side front wheel will unweight, and in extreme cases, like if you're also climbing or on the power, the car will try and roll itself even with the back wheels on the ground. Have a look at what happened to Roothy's scat at tough truck last year - an excellent example of what happens with heavily mismatched roll stiffness in extreme situations.

As an aside, I'd be taking LOTS of travel out of the rear to make the car more predicatable, especially under power.

Just some thoughts. I'm coiling the rear of my car now, and whilst it's leaf in the front ( for the moment) I'm trying to run as much rear roll stiffness as I can to keep the car balanced.

Steve.

Sweet looking ride..
are you going to try & get it road legal??

yeah i know a guy lol if u no what i mean only for comp reason i want it regoed

preecy wrote:lay80n- yeah its getting there i want to have it going soon hopfully , sorri but who were u again sorri mate i was talkin about it to lots of ppl lol


exc-thanx mate ,not as of yet mate it still needs a rear t-shaft,reducion gears,front shocks and few other things but i will let use know once i hav taken it out dont expect it soon tho lol

I was the Navi for the big blue 40. You were sitting on our car float talking about the vit on sat arvo/evening.

As Steve said, get the travel balanced front to rear and work on your roll stiffness. It will be a nice stable rig.

Layto....

aw yeah i remember sorri man mental blank lol
yeah i wil ey i mite nned sum help from sum ppl with that one that no abit more about it then me cheers mate

aw btw congradulaions on placing 16th man well done

Hey mate, This looks crazy, think I seen your vitara on the "The shed" Remembe rit from the front red light haha.
Do you mind telling me how much this all cost roughly?

But yeah nice work man, solid effort, cant wait to see some photos of it in action

Peace

yeah that would of been her lol
about 6 grand for the hilux sas and it still growing but mine is a trailer job now only gunna hav it regoed for comp reasons