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C4 auto + transfer options

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:03 pm
by maxtrax
Can any one tell me what transfer cases can bolt to a C4 auto.

Looking for options.

Type of transfer used?
What ratio can the transfer run?
who does adapeters for transfer?
Who can adapete a C4 to a motor?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:21 pm
by HUSSLN
Why would you want to use a c4. bulky 3 speed

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:30 pm
by brooksy
I would go T700 / NP205 using Advanced Adaptor.
Forget the C4. :D

But it makes it obvious what my engine choice would be also :finger:




brooksy

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:33 pm
by Tiny
Advance do a c4 to dana 20 from memory, call marks as they bring the advance stuff in here.

other than that can run a divorced transfer

IMO the only reason to run a C4 is if you had a complete v8 and c4 ready to trhow into something, since your asking what engine a c4 bolts to I assume not in which case there are far better option out there. Marks have various kits to run different v8s etc to various drive train options

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:59 pm
by RUFF
HUSSLN wrote:Why would you want to use a c4. bulky 3 speed
Its actually one of the shortest 3 speed auto's around ;)

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:23 pm
by Slunnie
I thought you guys were butting C4's into the cut down LT95's???

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:30 pm
by 6.5 rangie
Slunnie wrote:I thought you guys were butting C4's into the cut down LT95's???
ritters used to do these, they still pop up from time to time.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:40 pm
by WICKED
Mark's and Dellow's make adaptor's for the C4.

I have a C4, Marks adaptor to 60's Toyota LC Case with 68% Reduction gears.

AFAIK Marks is one of the few companies that make gears for the LandCruiser case, if you went that way.

I have 4.3 diff gears and with the auto and t-case gears it's around 35:1 in low range and think it's perfect, most of the time....

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:02 pm
by maxtrax
As Tony said "C4 is the shortest auto around"

That is why I am asking as so far I have a Trimatic / sierra trany but I can get a custom bell houseing to fit the motor to I have to a C4. but would like to strenghten the transfer and make it sorter than this compo @ 1100mm.

I can use t700 / t400 and hilux or cruiser transfer but what is the lenght of this?

The dana 20 what ratio? eg 4:1, 6.5:1 etc

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:08 pm
by Micka
You can adapt a C4 to go up to an LT230.

Get some 5:1 gears, JacMac single piece cross shaft and a disconnect and you're laughing. Pretty sure MalV runs an LT230 is his BushRangie.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:32 pm
by HUSSLN
i thought the c6 was the smller of the ford boxes. c4/c10 similar. my bad. how much shorter than a t700, are the ratios in first better?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:46 pm
by Zorak
have you considered a 727 ? my Inter Scout runs a 727 torqueflight and a Dana20 as standard. these are probably the toughest auto tran's ever made :D

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:42 am
by hotrod4x4
It's really only the extension housing that makes the T700 longer than a C4.
If adapting, it doesn't make much difference.....altho that depends on what adaptor is used, as some are longer than needed.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:20 am
by 1MadEngineer
hotrod4x4 wrote:It's really only the extension housing that makes the T700 longer than a C4.
If adapting, it doesn't make much difference.....altho that depends on what adaptor is used, as some are longer than needed.
what the ??

http://www.tciauto.com/Products/TechInfo/trans_dims.asp

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:42 pm
by hotrod4x4
I've seen both combo's (in the same shed) behind V6's and there's basically nothing in it.
Might be the difference in the bellhousing adaptor also.

And it's someone you know, so i'm not full of it.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:01 am
by nottie
hotrod4x4 wrote:It's really only the extension housing that makes the T700 longer than a C4.
If adapting, it doesn't make much difference.....altho that depends on what adaptor is used, as some are longer than needed.
Have you ever seen each auto side buy side with the extention housing off??
Huge diffrence.

The t700 does have a better 1st gear in it but is no match in the size and length stakes.

Murry. Have you decided what donk as yet or have i missed it?
I would go with what micka said and use a built C4 and an Lt230. With the mogs you wont need reduction gears as the LT is 3.1 out of the box. You can go 5.1s for them if you do think you need them. They are a gear driven box and very strong and plentifull. Dana 20s and the likes are bit to hard for parts and really need a heap of upgraded shafts and crap (look at Gonads buggy).
Engine to auto is the easy part to adapt. From A c4 to an lt is an easy one as well in the right hands.