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pajero flex with gu springs

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:34 pm
by bravo
i finally got the new brakeline and some shocks in, and took it for a test run. the flex goes ok but the shocks are binding up a bit. there is more flex to be had just have to sort out the shocks
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:54 am
by REDNUT
looks good,

im guessing u have removed the rear sway bar?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:03 pm
by bravo
yeah got rid of that a long time ago

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:48 pm
by REDNUT
nice im thinking ill have to do the same, are the nissan springs u used from the front or rear of the patrol?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:02 pm
by bravo
rear gu springs.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:40 pm
by bravo
I just went and tried the set up out again. Conclusion: need 80mm bump stop extension and need to move the shock over so it doesnt bind on the control arm some how as this is stopping the axle from dropping down more as you can see. there is still plenty of downtravel to be made once the shocks are sorted. i might go to the local skate park and flex it up on a ramp with no shocks to see how it goes
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:17 am
by Guy
Any pics of it "non flexed" to see how it sits normally.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:56 am
by NJV6
bravo wrote:I just went and tried the set up out again. Conclusion: need 80mm bump stop extension and need to move the shock over so it doesnt bind on the control arm some how as this is stopping the axle from dropping down more as you can see. there is still plenty of downtravel to be made once the shocks are sorted. i might go to the local skate park and flex it up on a ramp with no shocks to see how it goes
Why wuld you want to space your bump stop? You then lose 80mm travel. You are not going to gain that in droop. Also look at the front mount of the radius arm design. A big lift simply means less down travel due to design so reducing up travel is a lose - lose situation.

The arms bind up with only a little more travel than with the normal shocks on. I only got an extra inch up the ramp with no shocks and the vehicle still leaned alot due to the front not working very well.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:51 am
by Guy
NJV6 wrote:
bravo wrote:I just went and tried the set up out again. Conclusion: need 80mm bump stop extension and need to move the shock over so it doesnt bind on the control arm some how as this is stopping the axle from dropping down more as you can see. there is still plenty of downtravel to be made once the shocks are sorted. i might go to the local skate park and flex it up on a ramp with no shocks to see how it goes
Why wuld you want to space your bump stop? You then lose 80mm travel. You are not going to gain that in droop. Also look at the front mount of the radius arm design. A big lift simply means less down travel due to design so reducing up travel is a lose - lose situation.

The arms bind up with only a little more travel than with the normal shocks on. I only got an extra inch up the ramp with no shocks and the vehicle still leaned alot due to the front not working very well.
Would be interesting to see that same test with a bump top spacer in place
The spacer should in effect work as a fulcrum to force the low side to move further down.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:22 pm
by bravo
sitting normal
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i looked at the shocks today and it will be a pain in the ass to move them. the RHS will be easy but the LHS has all brake lines,fuel lines and brackets in the way. Pajero's have a shit shock setup as they sit like this \__/ not the preffered /__\. So i think the best option i have so far is to mount the shocks to the rear of the axle and to the centre on the chassis stiffner infront of the fuel tank. using brackets like these
http://72.34.32.141/~snakerac/product_i ... 3f86f2c69b
http://72.34.32.141/~snakerac/product_i ... 3f86f2c69b
to give a result looking like this but with coil springs
http://72.34.32.141/~snakerac/popup_ima ... 4a19e65663

so i would be mounting stuff
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:23 pm
by Bitsamissin
The fulcrum comment is actually correct.
Once the compressed side is on the bumpstop it acts like a lever forcing the other side down so you still get maximum droop (as much as the shock will allow).

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:25 pm
by hudson44
Bitsamissin wrote:The fulcrum comment is actually correct.
Once the compressed side is on the bumpstop it acts like a lever forcing the other side down so you still get maximum droop (as much as the shock will allow).
And stops the shock becoming the "new" bump stop.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:39 pm
by specs
i have the same problem with the shock hitting the radius rod. would removing the inside lower shock mount with a plasma cutter and rewelding it on the outside work? making the standard outer mount now the inner one. this would move the shock over about 70mm. will the shock be okay mounted on a bit more of an angle like this?