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Holden Adventra/Cross 8

Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 1:48 am
by Westoztroopa
So anyone have an opinion or first hand experience with these yet? Noticed that 4wd Monthly just bagged the hell out of them - quite funny actually. It seems amazing that Holden is actually marketing these things as legitimate offroad vehicles. :roll: I think that this may bite Holden in the bum in the end when people realise that they cant do what is promoted in the commercials.

Noel

Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 9:22 pm
by DAZZ
I think if they are used as intended they will be a good thing. The marketing hype is nothing different from all car makers. Toyota still think the Cruiser is King of the road!!! :finger:

Why do 4wd Monthly test these softroaders when all they do is bag them???
Better to use the mag space for something better. Of corse an X5, Audi, Benz, Volvo isn't going to have the ground clearence and wheel travel of a 6" lift Patrol with 38" swampers.........

Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 9:31 pm
by lay80n
Work for holden, and agree with what the mag said, pretty good on the road, but thats where they should stay. Tried to ramp one up in the workshop but got nothing ,and the trac control didnt work either, just spin wheels. THough on the road they are good, nice to drive and all. Have not had any trouble with them either so far.

Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 11:45 pm
by Westoztroopa
DAZZ wrote:Why do 4wd Monthly test these softroaders when all they do is bag them???
Better to use the mag space for something better. Of corse an X5, Audi, Benz, Volvo isn't going to have the ground clearence and wheel travel of a 6" lift Patrol with 38" swampers.........


Its all about education. Consumers need to know what these vehicles actually can and cant do. Misleading marketing and advertising does not help the cause.

Dont get me wrong, I am sure they are a great vehicle for onroad and I personally would not mind owning one but at the moment Holden seems to think that the Adventra can completely fill the void recently made vacant by the departing Jackaroo (However small that void may be, it was never a big seller). But as you know it can never compete with the Jackaroo offroad.

Noel

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 12:37 am
by napsta
nothing 4wd monthly did was more extreme than that crappy tv add holden are running about adventura island.
i reccon the article was tops. i wanna see them wreck one and then take a photo of the holden people's face when they bring it back in bits... same with the ute towing a boat over the rocks in mars...

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:50 am
by Spinner
Noel, don't forget the Frontera. I actually thought that they bumped that out of the way for the local product. I mean "Adventur..A" for the "Fronter..A". They obviously saw the success of this fine vehicle and thought they could clone it using the only thing they had, a Commodore shell. Geez.. strap the spare on the rear and give it some lift. 0X It was a conspiracy I tell you!!

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:17 pm
by Westoztroopa
Oops, sorry Wayne. :) The Frontera also deserved a meantion in my comment too as being replaced.

I see what you're saying about the naming but I'm sure they would've done much better by calling it Adventuroo! :D :roll:

Hehe, good call!

Noel

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:24 am
by Vulcanised
the way i see it..... the Adventra is no different to any other soft roader, just a shiite load more grunt.... Holden may have advertised it a little wrongly... but you would probably get them any place you would get a Kluger or any other half baked fourby getting around on the market..... i know if i wanted to have a hoon along some dirt roads, i'd take the Adventra over a WRX any day :D

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:28 pm
by WOLF
Lets face it boys,HOLDEN have never been that bright when promoting their 4X4's.
Just look at the mess they made with our beloved JACKAROO!!!! :x
The worlds most underated 4x4.

As for 4WD MONTHLY,well they are just a bunch of cowboys! :x
Just look at how they tested the X5,Porche Ceyanne(F###ED if I know how to spell it?)
These vehicles are obviously built for added safety IE better traction in slippery conditions ETC,NOT for the places they have taken them!
I think from memory they drove a 911 to Cape York!!
WHAT THA?? :?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:40 pm
by goodie
i think 4wd monthly is a good mag for modified 4bys and new parts. but to there comparos and new car reviews :2gunfire: :finger: . Yes they might be "THE BEST" but they take the new car reviews to far like launching a porche.... i would like to drive a porche, rather than fly it :angel: .......

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:05 am
by Vulcanised
I think the reason that 4WD Monthly test these things off-road is the fact that they are advertised as off-road vehicles and therefore, even knowing they are NOT capable fourbys, do the test anyhow just to prove a point. Personally, i would rather see proper 4WDs tested and leave the soft-roaders for the other mags.

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 7:46 pm
by goodie
RoeDao, You have A very valid point. They ARE advertised as "off road" so i suppose that 4wd monthly has a point for taking them off road. But i doubt that i would ever take a 70 K (out of the show room) 4x4ing to the limits they push the test cars





WOULD BE FUNNY TO SEE WEN THE RETURN THE TEST CARS :lol: :lol: bit like off jackass the movie :armsup:

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:50 am
by WOLF
GOODIE,
Had to laugh :lol: :lol:
Emagine the look on their faces as 4WD MONTHLY returns that $200,000+ PORCHE CEYANNE (?)
HA! HA!
:oops:

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:22 pm
by goodie
is the porche worth 200k :bad-words:
RIP OFF

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:54 pm
by WOLF
Not sure on the price of the Porche?
But its got to be worth more than a BMW X5! and they cost $130K.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:34 am
by goodie
130k
meh wats the point, could make a rig capible of any thing for that price maybe even 2 :lol:

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:49 pm
by spamwell
if you havn't noticed holden never advertised it as an offroader it is clear that they advertise it as being able to navigate most roads in australia, like the outback dirt roads and the many driving beaches, they are meant for making trips into the outback and to the driving beaches more accessable for people who mainly live in the city and don't need a real 4x4. They are awesome foor hooning around the winding dirt roads often found in australia and provide a nicer ride than hooning in the dirt roads in a wrx