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GQ CARBY CONVERSION?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:26 pm
by Chopz
G'day guys, picking up my 1989 4.2TB GQ on friday and one of the dramas with it is the carby. The bloke recons in the colder weather its a bit harder to start but one its warm, shes ok. He has has it rebuilt 3 times since in the time hes had it ( had it from new) and was saying there is like a 350 holley conversion you can do for em that will fix it up...is this true?
Do ya know anywhere that sells the adapor plates...or does anyone have some alternative solutions...
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:56 pm
by tanz-e
your picking it up on friday.
one of the problems with it is!.....
THE CARBY!!
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:01 pm
by brad-chevlux
It needs to have the choke adjusted properly, ( not by the guy who has been rebuilding it)
there is no 'direct fit' 350 holley adapter to suit the TB42 engine.
You can use one of the 2F/3F toyota adpaters but it needs the mounting wholes modified and a about 2 inches of spacer under the adapter plate to let it fit.
But all you are doing is stepping backwards to a manual choke carby OR to an other carby that will need it's electric choke adjusted to suit your engine. So you'll be back in square one.
You just need to find some one who can adjust your carby properly. You may also need a winter and summer setting. I know of few TB42s that need choke adjustment with change of season.
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:44 pm
by tanz-e
brad-chevlux wrote:It needs to have the choke adjusted properly, ( not by the guy who has been rebuilding it)
there is no 'direct fit' 350 holley adapter to suit the TB42 engine.
You can use one of the 2F/3F toyota adpaters but it needs the mounting wholes modified and a about 2 inches of spacer under the adapter plate to let it fit.
But all you are doing is stepping backwards to a manual choke carby OR to an other carby that will need it's electric choke adjusted to suit your engine. So you'll be back in square one.
You just need to find some one who can adjust your carby properly. You may also need a winter and summer setting. I know of few TB42s that need choke adjustment with change of season.
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your picking it up on friday.
one of the problems with it is!.....
THE CARBY!!
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:53 pm
by danny40
There is all ways one isn't there
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:47 am
by Chopz
I'm sorry, have I missed something tanz-e
thats funny coz if i wanted something to repeat me I'd have bought a f##kin parrot.
Thanks brad-chevlux for an actual constructive contribution
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:33 pm
by sh1ty
yes there is a 350 holley conversion for these tbs i think i sore one on ebay.
there is a bloke building them, they came with an adapter plate brand new 350 holley and a different throttle cable, from memory they were about $500 . the carby also had the mod done to it so it would run on hills.
I had a 350 on my old coil cab and it loved it. ran like a champ after the float was changed. you can park it on a 45 degree angle and it dosnt change the running of the motor.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:32 pm
by tanz-e
faaaark calm down..
im mealing suggesting if ya havent bought it yet. why not save ya money, wait and get an efi...
my carbies sweet as mate runs like dream... but it takes a bit to keep it that way and its only a year old!
perhaps its the duel fuel...
to tune ya gas and petrol is impossible...
there slower to respond.
less economical....
why would ya get a carby wen ya can get efi's for the same price...
ya goose!!!
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:43 pm
by nastytroll
tanz-e wrote:faaaark calm down..
im mealing suggesting if ya havent bought it yet. why not save ya money, wait and get an efi...
my carbies sweet as mate runs like dream... but it takes a bit to keep it that way and its only a year old!
perhaps its the duel fuel...
to tune ya gas and petrol is impossible...
there slower to respond.
less economical....
why would ya get a carby wen ya can get efi's for the same price...
ya goose!!!
I saw an efi for sale somewhere on line on one of the forums and it was around the same price as a carby. I hated my carby tb42 and could not waite to get rid of it.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:45 pm
by cooki_monsta
tanz-e wrote:faaaark calm down..
im mealing suggesting if ya havent bought it yet. why not save ya money, wait and get an efi...
my carbies sweet as mate runs like dream... but it takes a bit to keep it that way and its only a year old!
perhaps its the duel fuel...
to tune ya gas and petrol is impossible...
there slower to respond.
less economical....
why would ya get a carby wen ya can get efi's for the same price...
ya goose!!!
not impossible, just needs to be setup properly! my pick would be advance your car to run 95oct premium as it runs the same as lpg does, then u can tune both nicely.
auto chokes on gq's are known problems, but that doesnt mean ditch a beautifully engineered carby for some piece of junk holly, you will find your economy will go the way of the dodo thanks to holly not believing in vac secondaries, your car is going to become thirstier then a miner at open bar night!
stick with the original and as prev stated get it re-tuned at a different workshop
mine ran fine for years carbied
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:19 pm
by chimpboy
Yes, they are a decent carby; you just need to get it sorted.
And this is from someone who hates carbies and always prefers efi.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:17 pm
by familybus
tanz-e wrote:faaaark calm down..
im mealing suggesting if ya havent bought it yet. why not save ya money, wait and get an efi...
my carbies sweet as mate runs like dream... but it takes a bit to keep it that way and its only a year old!
perhaps its the duel fuel...
to tune ya gas and petrol is impossible...
there slower to respond.
less economical....
why would ya get a carby wen ya can get efi's for the same price...
ya goose!!!
pfft yeh runnin sweet as ay!
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic194686.php
mate im tryin real hard to bite my tongue and pretend your posts are annoying BUT!
fare go dude if you cant be nice to people asking for help etc or even post up something thats not crap then fark off! i mean seriously dude you love to do nothin but dribble shit and bag out peoples shit like yours is top notch!
obviously it doesnt matter what you drive your obviously prooving you are a wanker regardless!
ok rant over and sorry for this on your post Chopz! hope this doesnt warrant me a ban but some one had to tell yah!
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:57 pm
by PGS 4WD
When duel fuel there is a screen over the fuel bowl that is removed for fitment of the mixer, this allows small bits of crap (often silicone from the mixer install) to enter the fuel bowl and block the small port in the fixed idle jet, this causes lean idle mixture, rough running, hard start. I have unblocked this jet on dozens of occasions for numerous customers.
Joel
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:06 pm
by tanz-e
familybus wrote:tanz-e wrote:faaaark calm down..
im mealing suggesting if ya havent bought it yet. why not save ya money, wait and get an efi...
my carbies sweet as mate runs like dream... but it takes a bit to keep it that way and its only a year old!
perhaps its the duel fuel...
to tune ya gas and petrol is impossible...
there slower to respond.
less economical....
why would ya get a carby wen ya can get efi's for the same price...
ya goose!!!
pfft yeh runnin sweet as ay!
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic194686.php
mate im tryin real hard to bite my tongue and pretend your posts are annoying BUT!
fare go dude if you cant be nice to people asking for help etc or even post up something thats not crap then fark off! i mean seriously dude you love to do nothin but dribble shit and bag out peoples shit like yours is top notch!
obviously it doesnt matter what you drive your obviously prooving you are a wanker regardless!
ok rant over and sorry for this on your post Chopz! hope this doesnt warrant me a ban but some one had to tell yah!
huh???
bite a tongue ya old fart...
i wasnt nice to him? im a wanker?
man the faaark up....
if ya read all my threads you find that in one i say my cars runnen like poo on petrol and the other tells mister watever his name is that wrote this that ya cant tune both fuels perfectly...
on gas... id be very suprised if many people had a tb42 with the kays mines done runnen half as good as mine.... i bought the thing as a lemon with 300 thou on it bout 5 years ago. since then everything but the bottom end has been replaced-
FA**CKING EVERYTHING!!
other than expressing my opinion about the matter...
if you could please point out exactly where i hurt your feelings i will remember to check myself before writing another post...
other than that .maate i couldnt give a flying hoot wat you think me or my threads but i never lie!!!!
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:12 pm
by brad-chevlux
tanz-e wrote:familybus wrote:tanz-e wrote:faaaark calm down..
im mealing suggesting if ya havent bought it yet. why not save ya money, wait and get an efi...
my carbies sweet as mate runs like dream... but it takes a bit to keep it that way and its only a year old!
perhaps its the duel fuel...
to tune ya gas and petrol is impossible...
there slower to respond.
less economical....
why would ya get a carby wen ya can get efi's for the same price...
ya goose!!!
pfft yeh runnin sweet as ay!
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic194686.php
mate im tryin real hard to bite my tongue and pretend your posts are annoying BUT!
fare go dude if you cant be nice to people asking for help etc or even post up something thats not crap then fark off! i mean seriously dude you love to do nothin but dribble shit and bag out peoples shit like yours is top notch!
obviously it doesnt matter what you drive your obviously prooving you are a wanker regardless!
ok rant over and sorry for this on your post Chopz! hope this doesnt warrant me a ban but some one had to tell yah!
huh???
bite a tongue ya old fart...
i wasnt nice to him? im a wanker?
man the faaark up....
if ya read all my threads you find that in one i say my cars runnen like poo on petrol and the other tells mister watever his name is that wrote this that ya cant tune both fuels perfectly...
on gas... id be very suprised if many people had a tb42 with the kays mines done runnen half as good as mine.... i bought the thing as a lemon with 300 thou on it bout 5 years ago. since then everything but the bottom end has been replaced-
FA**CKING EVERYTHING!!
other than expressing my opinion about the matter...
if you could please point out exactly where i hurt your feelings i will remember to check myself before writing another post...
other than that .maate i couldnt give a flying hoot wat you think me or my threads but i never lie!!!!
dude, stop it, you're being a toss
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:37 pm
by danny40
Worth getting the standard carby sorted, mine runs very nice and smooth on both LPG and petrol and it allways has. I would find a mechanic that is familar with the tb42 carby and gas they should be able to nut the problem out.
And guys go easy on tanz-e After all he is from dandenong don't forget
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:57 am
by Chopz
tanz-e wrote:faaaark calm down..
im mealing suggesting if ya havent bought it yet. why not save ya money, wait and get an efi...
my carbies sweet as mate runs like dream... but it takes a bit to keep it that way and its only a year old!
perhaps its the duel fuel...
to tune ya gas and petrol is impossible...
there slower to respond.
less economical....
why would ya get a carby wen ya can get efi's for the same price...
ya goose!!!
dunno, why didnt you buy an efi instead of your carby model!
maybe i'm "MEALING" suggesting your a goose
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:04 am
by Chopz
And once again boys thanks for all the constructive comments. all good family bus thanks for the advice!