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rocky, rollin and bouncin'

Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 11:36 pm
by Spartacus
since fitting the 15x7 alloys with 31" tyres the rocky
bounces and rolls more then a basketball.
it had 28s on it previously.

by setting the infamous 3 stage dampers to hard it settles
the roll a bit, but increases the bounce, skipping me
across corners(marginally).

is it the higher COG? or the wrong wheel-nut combination?

im seriously crapping meself when goin around dodgy roads.

anything help

Lucas :evilbat:

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 4:23 am
by SimplyPV
get used to it mate... bout all you can do... its a hella short wheelbase so you'll bounce around alot. so enjoy!

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:23 am
by r0ck_m0nkey
What tyre pressure you running aswell?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:14 am
by murcod
Dump the three stage shocks and fit something decent ... and drop your tyre pressures to whatever is recommended by Daihatsu.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 12:40 pm
by *BESTY*
Why did you change to bigger tyres Spartacus ??

You've gone and changed all the geometry of your driveline and steering components.
Surely you didn't think it would drive the same ??

Simple fix = Reinstall your sway bars, change back to 28" tyres and drive it !!

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 1:52 pm
by murcod
Ferozius wrote:Why did you change to bigger tyres Spartacus ??

You've gone and changed all the geometry of your driveline and steering components.
Surely you didn't think it would drive the same ??

Simple fix = Reinstall your sway bars, change back to 28" tyres and drive it !!


So in this thread you're saying don't fit larger tyres Besty? :D :D :D

If you want to keep the tyres Spartacus you'll find the shocks will make a big difference. My Feroza's rear end used to skip all over corners on rough tracks with the three setting electronic shocks, it's a lot better now with decent aftermarket ones.

One question Besty - to my thinking larger tyres won't change the suspension geometry? The COG will be higher and cause more roll through corners. I can only see the geometry changing by doing a suspension lift ?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 2:10 pm
by *BESTY*
Murcod wrote:So in this thread you're saying don't fit larger tyres Besty?


Absolutely !!

If he isn't happy with the way that it handles and

Spartacus wrote:im seriously crapping meself when goin around dodgy roads


Then he should change it back to what he was happy with.

When I did my build-up, I started around the 36" Swampers, but after driving them on the road, the handling was absolutely Sh_tful, I scared myself driving this thing......so I changed down to a smaller tyre !!!

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 2:12 pm
by *BESTY*
Murcod wrote:One question Besty - to my thinking larger tyres won't change the suspension geometry? The COG will be higher and cause more roll through corners. I can only see the geometry changing by doing a suspension lift ?


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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 6:35 pm
by crowey
I have put a set of 31x10.5's on mine wide track. after a 4inch suspension lift and 3inch body lift, i have the same problem.
Just need to slow down going around corners and hang on like all hell on dirt roads! good fun though!!

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:18 pm
by *BESTY*
How did you achieve the 4" suspension lift at the front ??

The most anyone can really gain is 2" so that the suspension still works :?:

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:42 pm
by ferog
interesting @ crowie? put something up in the members section so we can pick you apart ;)

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:44 pm
by *BESTY*
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:44 pm
by crowey
I managed to get about 4 inches by winding the torsion bars up about 3 inches and then at the top and bottom of the suspension arms drilled new holes and put spaces in. It has slightly changed the camber but that gave me almost another inch.

I didnt do it personally, it was done by a profesional, but due to the nature of the work i wont say who.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:49 pm
by crowey
Thanks for putting my pic up Ferozius!
And what is meant by that comment Ferog??

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:06 pm
by ferog
put something up in the members section so we/or I can ask you questions and see how you done what you have....... :!: there isnt too many feroza's on here with 4" suspension lifts 3" BL with OE, and how you over came any problems. :D welcome .

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:12 pm
by crowey
Ferog
Ill put something in there shortly. I am at work at the moment.
The biggest problem that we had with the lift was the standard brake lines and extending the 4wd lever in the car. other than that there wasnt really any dramas.
Ill post something shortly in the members section

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:21 pm
by murcod
Another Feroza owner from Adelaide! :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:

Welcome! :D Nice looking vehicle you've got there......

You'll have to start a new topic and tell everyone some more about your suspension mods. ;)

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 4:10 am
by SimplyPV
ok adding spacers make sense in terms of dropping the arms down a bit.... but you still have to worry about ur diff angle, not to mention chamber, toe, and a few other things.... maybe you did get it that high, but i think your going to have some serious problems in the future in terms of your driveline unless you did correct all this. i've had 3 professionals tell me the only way i was goin to go higher than 2 to 2 and 1/2 inch high with the torsion was if i either modded the arms by dropping them down and rewelding them, then extending the driveline, etc etc etc. alot of $$ was told i'd be better off putting in a solid axle. and that seems to be the best answer.. but that wont be anywhere in the near future... if you can tell us how you got it up that high... i will do the same to my rig soo fast... provided it doesnt screw up the drive line and what not. honestly though, i'm skeptical about it because like i said, i had 3 guys look at mine and they are really good in what they do. so i'm sure they would of thought of something like that if it was possible and for a reasonable price.