HILUX DOUBLE CARDINAL

[MYV84B]

Hi just spoke to the wreckers as im looken 4 a hilux double cardinal

they told me that ifs hilux use a different cardinal joint to a solid axle

and dont have as much movement as a solid axle hilux

can anyone help as i realy wana get sum shafts in me truck

[Pesky Pete]

Just some food for thought. I have built a pretty similar truck to yours except I used a rover v8 with rover auto and transfer. End result is that I cant keep shafts in the front. The Double Cardin does not really help with an increase in angle. I am currently building a custom shaft using a hilux CV and RHS. The CV will be mounted on a short piece of Axle so that it has the spline for drive. I will weld the CV to the axle just so that it does not seperate. At the back, I am going to weld the axle to a plate which bolts to the transfer. All the rest is pretty standard Rock rig stuff with sliding RHS for the shaft and spline with a standard hilux uni at the diff.

Im hoping that this will give me heaps more angle out of the front shaft. Should be doing most of the work tonight as I am still hoping to make XRCC, so I should eb able to give an updayte on the build overnight, and the preformance after the weekend. May not work for you, but I thought it was a good idea

[MYV84B]

Y cant ya keep shafts in ya truck ??? i no u said its binding ?? When is it binding

sounds like a good idea but my truck has to be able to drive to and from da tracks /beach and i lkie fangen it so RHS rock tailshaft wont suit me ,,
im still realy interested tho it sounds like it will work but i still cant figure y ya tailshaft is binding so bad .,,,your runnen leaves in the front ??

keep us posted how ya go ,mate

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

Johnny i thought yo uwere the king of getting "shafted"????

anyhoo,

why dont you just not drive it like a tosspot on road.

drive it like the too - tall nanna mobile it is.

and enjoy just driving along slow and not breaking stuff.

or sell a kidney and pay for some shite hot shaft, like you normally do with the he whores!

what do cheezey and them use??

[Pesky Pete]

Y cant ya keep shafts in ya truck ??? i no u said its binding ?? When is it binding

sounds like a good idea but my truck has to be able to drive to and from da tracks /beach and i lkie fangen it so RHS rock tailshaft wont suit me ,,
im still realy interested tho it sounds like it will work but i still cant figure y ya tailshaft is binding so bad .,,,your runnen leaves in the front ??

keep us posted how ya go ,mate

Main reason for the binding is because the rover front output is quite high compared to the hilux output. This means a fairly steep angle. I had leaves in the front then and on any flex, the uni would bind up as it was almost at its limit before there was any flex at all. Ive now put radius arms and coils in the front. Yet to try it out as It is little use till I get this shaft issue sorted.

You could still do what I am doing with a round shaft and a slip joint, and I imagine it would balance up okay if you did it right. I think it should be pretty strong too.

Cheers

Pete

[MYV84B]

Hopefully the coils in the front should help with
det us sum pics whwn its done pete

John

[hypo]

Johnny i thought yo uwere the king of getting "shafted"????

anyhoo,

why dont you just not drive it like a tosspot on road.

drive it like the too - tall nanna mobile it is.

and enjoy just driving along slow and not breaking stuff.

or sell a kidney and pay for some shite hot shaft, like you normally do with the he whores!

what do cheezey and them use??

isnt that the pot calling the kettle back ya big girls blouse

[Pesky Pete]

Hopefully the coils in the front should help with
det us sum pics whwn its done pete

John

Worked out really well. Ended up putting the CV in the opposite direction to the original idea. Anyway looks like about 70 degrees angle. If anyone knows the angle for a standard hilux CV, well thats what it is.

Would have also been easy to do with round pipe and a spline. Just cut up an old drive shaft.

Cheers

Pete

[MYV84B]

Looks da goods pete

did you just use a tailshft spacer welded 2 ya CV ?

did you just weld the cv to the inner RHS slide

Im keen to hear how this goes

Getout there and flog it and let us no how it holds up

thanks pete

[Pesky Pete]

Mate turned the flange up on his lathe for me. Hoping to give it a run this weekend

[MYV84B]

Shithot >>>>>>>>>>>

Il here how it goes on da weekend

[MYV84B]

Yeea Hypo thats wot i thought

DIRTY ROCK STAR u r da NANNA


Wot was it you were sayn the other day

was it you love the mud driving cause your scared of driven da rocks

PONY PONY PONY when my truck is finished we can dance and c

who the NANNA realy is

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[MYV84B]

Surely sum 1 noes the difference or if there is a difference

[4sum4]

Think the 82`s were small diametre and shorter overall
I got 2 4runner DC`s ones IFS and ones SA they both seem to be the same

[MYV84B]

wotabout operating angles ??

maybe the wreckers is telling me shit

[bj on roids]

Hopefully the coils in the front should help with
det us sum pics whwn its done pete

John

Worked out really well. Ended up putting the CV in the opposite direction to the original idea. Anyway looks like about 70 degrees angle. If anyone knows the angle for a standard hilux CV, well thats what it is.

Would have also been easy to do with round pipe and a spline. Just cut up an old drive shaft.

Cheers

Pete

The weld would have to have weakened the birf, but its not gunna see anywhere near the shockloads. I dunno.... weird thats for sure.

Biggest question, what is the damn boot off?

[Pesky Pete]

Hopefully the coils in the front should help with
det us sum pics whwn its done pete

John

Worked out really well. Ended up putting the CV in the opposite direction to the original idea. Anyway looks like about 70 degrees angle. If anyone knows the angle for a standard hilux CV, well thats what it is.

Would have also been easy to do with round pipe and a spline. Just cut up an old drive shaft.

Cheers

Pete

The weld would have to have weakened the birf, but its not gunna see anywhere near the shockloads. I dunno.... weird thats for sure.

Biggest question, what is the damn boot off?

Hey BJ
Dont know what the boot is off. I just went to a CV Joint and asked for a boot that would fit over 90mm CV. Anyway Dont know if the Boot will stay on since there is no groove or anything to hold it in place. Slides off pretty easy.

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

YEAH YEAH!

johnny, you just worry about getting yours in one piece+ rego+ not getting your sista preggers and hypo you just worry about putting yours together.

you 2 would go so hard on that discovery channel show junkyard wars!

hehehehe.

you can both chow yun fat!

[RUFF]

wotabout operating angles ??

maybe the wreckers is telling me shit

They are deffianatly different. I have been through this before. The IFS one can handle about half the angle.

[RUFF]

Hopefully the coils in the front should help with
det us sum pics whwn its done pete

John

Worked out really well. Ended up putting the CV in the opposite direction to the original idea. Anyway looks like about 70 degrees angle. If anyone knows the angle for a standard hilux CV, well thats what it is.

Would have also been easy to do with round pipe and a spline. Just cut up an old drive shaft.

Cheers

Pete

How is the cut off piece of Axle held into the CV?

What Temp was the CV at when you welded it?

[Pesky Pete]

Axle is held by circlip and a weld. The CV was preheated with OXY for a bit before welding.

[hypo]

i looked under a current model v6 dual cab 2 day and noticed that they come from the factory with a double cardin on the rear shaft after the centre bearing, i wonder if these joints r different again ????

physically loox the same

[MYV84B]

havent seen them hypo il go have a look 2day

would be interesting 2 find out

[hypo]

havent seen them hypo il go have a look 2day

would be interesting 2 find out

yeah i dunno if its on all of them, like i say the lux i was looking at was 2004 V6 dual cab cab chassis