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Sorry guys if this question has been asked before (I can't find any info).

My question is can u use any of the running gear (Front IFS Diff Housing; Diff Centres Rear Diffs, etc) on / in a Vitara?? I see a few install hilux front diffs/CVs etc but I never have seen any mention in regards to Feroza running gear tried?? Or is the Daihatsu running gear up front proned to breakages like the Vitaras Alloy 3rd member & Housing & CV's??

I would gather that someone from here would have at least looked into it to see if its possible....

Just curious

Rob_macca67 wrote:Sorry guys if this question has been asked before (I can't find any info).

My question is can u use any of the running gear (Front IFS Diff Housing; Diff Centres Rear Diffs, etc) on / in a Vitara?? I see a few install hilux front diffs/CVs etc but I never have seen any mention in regards to Feroza running gear tried?? Or is the Daihatsu running gear up front proned to breakages like the Vitaras Alloy 3rd member & Housing & CV's??

I would gather that someone from here would have at least looked into it to see if its possible....

Just curious

A few have have used IFS yota stuff up front .. not that hard to fit aparently, far stronger than Zuk gear . .. as far as I know there are know there are no lockers for IFS feroza gear (front at least).

There are no commercially available lockers available for Ferozas in Oz.

Stick with Vit gear or go for some other donor vehicle which has plenty of aftermarket support.

AJFeroza wrote:There are no commercially available lockers available for Ferozas in Oz.

Stick with Vit gear or go for some other donor vehicle which has plenty of aftermarket support.

Yeah, not really after lockkas, just want to know if the u can use the 3rd Member + the actual Diff housing off the Feroza.....

I don't know what Diff Ratios the Ferozas use though.... Just wondering if this could be a possible solution to the Vitara Alloy Diff Problems.....
(I know u can use the steel Diffs / 3rd member from a GV, etc)

I can't think of a reason to go down the Feroza path when there are other options with more support. You can always cut down and modify a Sierra diff if need be.

there is one other option (although i dont know if it will fit or not)
but you could have a look at a Kia Sportage they are very close to the same wheel track and the rear diff is supposedly a full floater (i cant confirm or deny this at the moment)the motor if an efi 2lt twin cam (made by mazda and i think they are 120kw) first gear is a crawler gear t/case ratios are about the same as a vitara (and yes they are a hi/lo ratio t/case)

flyinwall wrote:there is one other option (although i dont know if it will fit or not)
but you could have a look at a Kia Sportage they are very close to the same wheel track and the rear diff is supposedly a full floater (i cant confirm or deny this at the moment)the motor if an efi 2lt twin cam (made by mazda and i think they are 120kw) first gear is a crawler gear t/case ratios are about the same as a vitara (and yes they are a hi/lo ratio t/case)

About as useful as the Feroza

X lots.

No lockers, no gears, too much oddness.

gwagon there are lockers available overseas
and too much oddness they have a mazda drivetrain the same as a ford courier, mazda bravo and asia rocsta to name a few

cj have you had anything to do with a sportage to say that they are as useful as the feroza

flyinwall wrote:there is one other option (although i dont know if it will fit or not)
but you could have a look at a Kia Sportage they are very close to the same wheel track and the rear diff is supposedly a full floater (i cant confirm or deny this at the moment)the motor if an efi 2lt twin cam (made by mazda and i think they are 120kw) first gear is a crawler gear t/case ratios are about the same as a vitara (and yes they are a hi/lo ratio t/case)

I suppose these wouldn't be too common at the wreckers ??

contact sandgate wreckers they have about 6 in there nambour yard at the moment and caloundra wreckers have one or two as well

flyinwall wrote:gwagon there are lockers available overseas
and too much oddness they have a mazda drivetrain the same as a ford courier, mazda bravo and asia rocsta to name a few

cj have you had anything to do with a sportage to say that they are as useful as the feroza

Damkia had one .. there are no readily avaiable locker front or rear, gears etc for em, the overseas stuff is rare at best, the rear end is substantially similar to a vitara (26 spline axle etc)

Where is Damkia these days ?
I think you should go down the Feroza path. Than when you have a better vitara, you will be able to stand tall as a trail blazor.
Of course if you fail miserably we will all say,"told you so "

flyinwall wrote:gwagon there are lockers available overseas
and too much oddness they have a mazda drivetrain the same as a ford courier, mazda bravo and asia rocsta to name a few

cj have you had anything to do with a sportage to say that they are as useful as the feroza

Having had Damkia in the Club I have a bit of an understanding of the Sportage and also having MightyMouse in the Club I know only too well the issues facing Feroza owners. MightyMouse ended up swapping to a Vit auto and t-case and Toyota rear and had a Mazda engine to go in it too but now he drives a Jeep Having readily available upgraded axles, lockers and gearing options and not having to sell a kidney to get them is worth a lot IMO.

I'd suggest that the key factor is ratio availablity.

There are lots of possible IFS front diff conbinations - extending to very substantial.

Once you find a make that offers the ratio and strength you need then its only work from there...... and of course it pays to check on aftermarket support for ratio's and lockers if your going to go to all the effort.

And that's assuming you just don't ues the obvious steel GV approach as suggested by Steve and cj! - or just SAS it and get it over with

Just wondering if there was something else out there other then the obvious Steel GV Diff, etc.

MightyMouse wrote:I'd suggest that the key factor is ratio availablity.

There are lots of possible IFS front diff conbinations - extending to very substantial.

Once you find a make that offers the ratio and strength you need then its only work from there...... and of course it pays to check on aftermarket support for ratio's and lockers if your going to go to all the effort.

And that's assuming you just don't ues the obvious steel GV approach as suggested by Steve and cj! - or just SAS it and get it over with

why?

atari4x4 wrote:why?

Steel GV Diffs aren't always easy to come by + $$....

It's always good to have other options

Rob_macca67 wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:why?

Steel GV Diffs aren't always easy to come by + $$....

It's always good to have other options

the money you'd be trying to save you would waste trying to adapt some random crap in there.... the steel housing can be found if you know where to look & aren't that expensive. I paid $350 for a whole steel GV diff & sold a brand new still in suzuki packaging steel carrier for $150 recently.

Fitting another IFS diff will cost LOTS of $$ unless you have a full engineering shop at your disposal. You'll need to make driveshafts etc etc....

I'd suggest that unless a GV housing is going to cost you several grand then its still the way to go.