Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Howdy People,

I am back in the market for a 4x4 after 2 1/2 yrs without one. Had to sell my XJ Jeep after my 1st son was born and now that hes old enough to take a hit offroad .. i want to get something practical with offroad capability.

My budget is tight as I another car and a bike that i need to keep. So I am looking at 9k max, want to keep it in the mid 8k mark to give me room.

Iam considering;

* Hilux 2.8TD
* Hilux 4Runner ( I owned one with the 3y gutless !)
* GQ Patrol/Maverick
* 80 Series

I want to be able to atleast drive around NSW and be practical enough to tow if needed and have room store crap.

I also want to hit the trails again .. tracks like, Menai, Bargo, Appin etc etc.

Any suggestions ?? or new idea's ??

Cheers !

80 Series or GQ

GQ would be cheaper. and better.

I would highly recomend the Patrol/Maverick for comfort and plus you will get more "Bang for your buck" cruisers are fine but expensive.
Hilux and 4runners are not as comfortable and less power as either of the above choices.
just my 2c

yeah i was leaning towards a Patrol/Mav ..

Is there any difference with the Mav apart from the badge ?

No I belive they only came out in the 4.2l petrol or diesel other than that not much, Maverick is equal to ST in Patrol elec windows ect.

For that price there is heaps you could look at. Gq would obiously be the best choice, you should even have enough change to get a lift and good tyres or even a winch or locker. Then there is the option of a landcruiser bundera or something similar so on and so forth. But as far as comfort, off road ability etc you really cant look past a gq.

I have my mav in the forsale section. I'll take the winch off and uhf out and you can have it for $9,000 .But I won't go below $9,000.

80 series... just a better build and car for the $$$

little things like 17mm bush bolts instead of the 14mm ones nissan used all comes to mind

there is a reason they are more expensive.... not just brand loyalty

Value for money wheeling? Two words:

Suzuki Sierra.

Can't beat it!

Ben_Sierra wrote:Value for money wheeling? Two words:

Suzuki Sierra.

Can't beat it!

Value yes but practical no.

Range rover or discovery, 5-6k for a V8, upgrade the axles or complete diffs and away you go.

wouldnt go past a gq patrol for the price range.

Brought a stock stand 4.2 diesel in immaculate condition for $4600 about 6moths ago so that leave a few grand for mods in your case

not stock wrote:I have my mav in the forsale section. I'll take the winch off and uhf out and you can have it for $9,000 .But I won't go below $9,000.

nice looking truck .. just a little worried about the 351 up front ill give u ca ll anyway.

The zook is not practical .. the 80 Series is a bit more expensive and the Disco (although a very good car) may also be expensive for parts.

Iam going to narrow it down to the GQ and maybe a Hilux with a 3.8L engine .. i wanted to do this to my 4Runner some 5 yrs ago but was wayy to expensive.

this looks quite good .. http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/pri ... A079B26240

any advise please ?

OzTeXs wrote:this looks quite good .. http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/pri ... A079B26240

any advise please ?

Too much lift (3"+2"+35's = no RWC), carby 4.2L petrol is not the most refined motor around either. I'd hold out for at least a 4.2L EFI if you aren't keen on waiting for a 4.2L diesel.

coxy321 wrote:

OzTeXs wrote:this looks quite good .. http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/pri ... A079B26240

any advise please ?

Too much lift (3"+2"+35's = no RWC), carby 4.2L petrol is not the most refined motor around either. I'd hold out for at least a 4.2L EFI if you aren't keen on waiting for a 4.2L diesel.

Fantastic Advise !

OzTeXs wrote:

coxy321 wrote:

OzTeXs wrote:this looks quite good .. http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/pri ... A079B26240

any advise please ?

Too much lift (3"+2"+35's = no RWC), carby 4.2L petrol is not the most refined motor around either. I'd hold out for at least a 4.2L EFI if you aren't keen on waiting for a 4.2L diesel.

Fantastic Advise !

Are you taking the piss?

Can anybody confirm the maximum lift for NSW roadworthiness? I thought it was 2" or 3" total.

i'd go the GQ petrol on gas.

A head rebuild for the tb42 is still cheaper than injector pump and injector work on the td42.

Been there...done that...if I do the GQ thing again it'll probably be a petrol.

Fantastic Advise ![/quote]
Are you taking the piss?

Can anybody confirm the maximum lift for NSW roadworthiness? I thought it was 2" or 3" total.[/quote]



Not at all .. Iam learning about the GQs and i thought that was good advise.

What would you say about a injected 3.0L GQ ?

They do the job, but realistically its just a family sedan (Commodore/Skyline) motor, and not even EFI at that. EFI and turbo conversions can be done easily, but you still end up with a 3L engine pushing a 2.5T truck.

here's a short URL for that carsales link that isnt working properly.

http://wut.im/ce

Ive got an rb30 engine i my patrol. I also have a bigger engine in the shed waiting to go in. Would only buy an rb30 engined patrol if it was very cheap.

guys thanks for your help so far ..

a forum member (not stock) has enticed me with his Maverick, which can be seen <here>http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic195385.php

It's 92 Maverick with a 351 up front. It's a nice capable offroader, but iam not sure of its practicality with the Gased V8.

Any feedback please ???

I would realy look at diesel powered, as the fuel consumption is outragous in any petrol vehicle that weighs nearly 3t. I had a 4.5l petrol and a 4.2l petrol 'cruiaer and troll now I have been converted to a diesel one and wont go back. Plus parts are plentiful where as if it isn't the engine from that vehicle parts can be difficult as there are a few different years that the "351" came out so some parts could be slightly different to the first one you purchase and you might be stuck somewhere that you needed to order the parts in so there is a possibilty of longer down time than you may have planed for. just my 2c.

For the money you should find something nearl set up ready to go in a GQ but in a 80 series it will be nearly stock.

I'll also say Rangie Classic or Disco1. The parts are only a pain in the bum if it breaks and you need them right away. Otherwise order parts from England and they are cheap as dirt. Some Aussie sellers have reasonable prices and can post you anything you want next day.

For $9k you would have your pick of any RRC or Disco1 petrol or diesel.

Actually I prefer having my pick of places to order online from. Much easier than having to get to the parts place before it closes so they may even be quicker to get parts for.

ive only had petrol patrols apart from one and thats because i got it with 120k on the clock. in this price range like my others its a gamble getting a good diesel thats been maintained, serviced and not flogged. ive only got petrols cos if something does need replacing or rebuilding its cheap. i liked the power of the tb42 as well . GQs are the best priced and most capable/ reliable vehichle if you want to get into the hard stuff

a mate of mine has owned a few GU patrols. one was a 4.2 td and the other was an injected 6ltr chev. the chev was cheaper to run and had alot more tyre and lift to push about. It had the full snake racing 6in setup and 2in BL and was all engineered. awsome truck but a bit outside your price range by about $30K

B4T

gq for value or 80 if you want to spend more$$

Utemad wrote:I'll also say Rangie Classic or Disco1.

Me too. You might even get a TD5 disco at that price.

Unmodified the RR is the most capable of any of the options mentioned. With mods, well, they can all be much the same I guess at any given price point.

sorry .. just don't like the look of the rangies .. id prefer to stick with jap technology.