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coilovers

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 9:45 pm
by killalux
who makes coilovers and what sort of dollars am i looking at. i like the look of the dobbin engineering ones but at $850 a pop thats really a bit more then i want to spend.

also has anyone had any luck gettin them engineered in queensland, will talk to the engineer next week when he gets back from holiday.

cheers
steve

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 9:59 pm
by big red
850 sound cheap...
the racerunner ones were much dearer than that
bit hard to remember...2500 pair ??
try giving wizard a ring.
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 10:02 pm
by killalux
yeah, the dobbin ones are based on a rancho 9000 shock

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 10:11 pm
by POS
I looked into Coil over a fair bit! :roll:

The Race Runners are very flash and i think would be worth what you pay! However the cost to get Springs is the HUGE cost!! Especially if you don't get it right the first time!

The rancho ones i don't think they are woth that sort of money, maybe for general 4 wheeling they may be ok but for RockDriving i think the Shaft size is a major issue (thin and weak) the rancho is a SHOCK, it was never really designed to take the forces involved with a coil over set up!!

The Race runners have a Beefy 22mm solid shaft and are set up to take the abuse!!!!!

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 11:28 pm
by spazbot
Check out the AUS shock coil overs they are made of offroad racing buggies but with 10" to 14" travel they might be ok for a 4b aswell

they have a good deal with the springs aswell
http://offroadracing.com.au/ausshock/02 ... change.htm

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:48 am
by grimbo
Aso have a look at the Fox Airs. Plenty of info on Pirate 4x4 about them

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:33 am
by suzukisam
made me own coilovers out of ranchos...

weld a collar to the base of the shock, weld another to a spring seat and slide it down, i've got different height spacers to give me different lift :D
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 9:39 pm
by hotrod4x4
Bilstein racing also do coil over shocks......for offroad biggies etc
they got some long travel ones.....just not sure on prices

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:00 pm
by spazbot
racer imports in victoria do fox shocks
also if you check out the offroad racing sites there are normally coilovers etc 4sale in thier classifieds section
http://racerimports.com.au/Fox_Shox.htm

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:57 pm
by POS
grimbo wrote:Aso have a look at the Fox Airs. Plenty of info on Pirate 4x4 about them


YES and they work out HEAPS cheaper than Coil overs! ;) :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 11:00 pm
by turps
Only problem with the ones for the buggys is that they would be pretty light wouldnt they. So the valveing would be up the shit.

Isnt that the problem some people had with ranchos. They brought the shock for the open/closed length, but the valving was designed for a car half the weight.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 11:35 pm
by Surfection
Normally i'm a fairly strong advocate for not using rancho's in a coilover application, having had experience in that area.... but i have to say i would definatly look at dobbins if i was after a cheaper alternative to conventional coilovers.
The misconception that people have about the coilover being weak because the shock it is built around isn't designed to have the weight of a truck on it, is wrong. The rancho shock merely sits in a cradle, is sleeved to prevent damage from coil contact, and has new eyes with orbital style joints top and bottom. The shock certianly isn't designed to support a truck, but this cradle is. It has the springs mounted off it, which are captured top and bottom [i think]. I'm sure professor could post up a few pics when the attachment function is back up and running. I would say the only downside to these is their weight, having to construct such a cradle / mounting system for the springs results in lots more weight, not that this matters to many.
I am not affiliated with dobbin engineering in any way, just trying to clear up a few grey areas.

Cheers, Jeremy :)

Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:57 am
by suzukisam
turps wrote:Isnt that the problem some people had with ranchos. They brought the shock for the open/closed length, but the valving was designed for a car half the weight.


or twice the weight >>>> the ranchos in my zook are out of an F250.

just a bit bumpy :cool:

Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 8:26 pm
by modman
lots of offroad guys use the ausshock. it takes the punishment dished out on dirt tracks so they should handle 4wd's strength wise
plus they are australian and cheaper than all the other brands listed above
i think there is a site "offroadracing.com.au" that has a second hand parts for sale section.
david

Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 10:03 pm
by modman
just checked 14" travel 7/8 shaft $765
springs $95
ausshock.com.au
offroadracing.com.au classifieds
david