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School me on RockLights

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:27 pm
by WICKED
I want Good Reliable rock lights. I want to run 4. 2 In front of the front tyres pointing straight down and 2 around the front of the rear pointing back.

I read - http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthre ... ock+lights

Searching here brings up SFA!

I've looked at - http://www.roundeyes.com/LED_Lighting-L ... t_Kit.html
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But Most reports are they are alright but way over priced.

Also looked at - http://www.visionxusa.com/led/tantrum/


These seam to be favoured over the other's. - http://www.oznium.com/high-intensity-led-floodlight

Also looked at - http://www.visionxstore.com/index.php?c ... ae50nuk5l6
BUT Not a fan.


I'm not sold on the SpotLight under there.

Have seen a lot of people use Oval shaped Supercheap, Repco, Boganbarn, etc specials BUT I want to do it Once and Once only.

I'd like the same spread if not better, Probly more at the rear -
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So:

What have you got?
Were you get them?
Price?
Durability?
Have you had them completely under water? Hot/Cold?
Have you cracked the case (Rock's/Logs/etc)?
Have you blown Bulbs? How offen?
How do you find them on the Battary?

Thought's welcome.

Cheers

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:35 pm
by nicbeer
I would go LED fro sure,

Check up on the hella/narva etc LED reverse lights and see what the beam/light pattern is. low apperage and max light

how handy are you with electronics?

also that photo looks longish shutter so would be brighter than it actually is in real

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:44 pm
by WICKED
nicbeer wrote: Check up on the hella/narva etc LED reverse lights and see what the beam/light pattern is. low apperage and max light

how handy are you with electronics?
Hella have bugger all on there site dude.
Narva have didly too....

I'm an apprentice Electrican.... So really, really shithouse. :lol:

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:50 pm
by RUFF

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:55 pm
by STIKA
I was using the cheap NAVA ones and never had any issues. Positioning is the most important thing, I have used the oval supercheap one in the past, but they never seemed to last.

The beam does not have to go that far, so you won’t need a high wattage globe, leds should draw even less current.

It is more critical that you have them in the right position, high as possible up under the body and limit as much shadowing as possible.

The other thing I find handy, is a light shinning from behind/beside the driver down onto the front wheels

What have you got? Nava
Were you get them? Truck line
Price? Just under $20 + globe
Durability?
Have you had them completely under water? Hot/Cold? Not sure
Have you cracked the case (Rock's/Logs/etc)? No
Have you blown Bulbs? How offen? Never
How do you find them on the Battary? No problem but that does depend on,
- how good your battery is
- how good and the charging capacity of your system
- what load you already have on the charging system

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:56 pm
by pigletracing
# I use sealed 12 volt down lights (the type you use in your house).
# costs about $8 for a 4 pack at bunnings.
# Ive used them for 2 years of comp work, from OUTBACK CHALLENGE to everywhere else.
# always on in every night stage.. never broke or blew 1
# I use a hole saw & cut a hole in the inner guard then siccaflex the sealed light into place then wire them straight to my parkers, I only used 20watt sealed lights, as they put out more than enough light.
cheers PIGLET

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:36 am
by Micka
4 wont be enough, Benny.

You will have lots of shadows. Better to use 2 infront of front diff. 2 behind front diff. 2 infront of rear diff and 2 behind rear diff.

Just go to Supercheap and get the halogen lights that look like down lights. Cheap and pretty strong and pump out some good light. 3 of us have been using these for the past 18 months and they are still going strong.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:50 am
by chimpboy
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5234

... can be linked in a chain. I reckon they would be pretty bullet proof and if they die they are cheap to replace. Just sikaflex them in place, no need to cut holes or anything.

I haven't used them myself but LEDs would have to be the best way to go for this.

Side note, ages ago someone posted here that he told his mum he wanted some rock lights for Xmas, and she got him...

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So now that's what I think of whenever someone mentions rock lights :)

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:04 am
by STIKA
chimpboy wrote:http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5234

... can be linked in a chain. I reckon they would be pretty bullet proof and if they die they are cheap to replace. Just sikaflex them in place, no need to cut holes or anything.

I haven't used them myself but LEDs would have to be the best way to go for this.

Side note, ages ago someone posted here that he told his mum he wanted some rock lights for Xmas, and she got him...

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So now that's what I think of whenever someone mentions rock lights :)
We have led down light in the place I am in in Darwin, from what I have seen they don't seem to last. From memory they all have been replaced, some of them are being replaced for the second time, and I have only been here 3 1/2 months.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:32 pm
by jbates58
hey mate, if your interested i did a bulk buy of some LED's for rocklights about a month ago, and i still have a heap left. pm me if you want pics or more info.

cheers

jbates58

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:17 am
by 11_evl
jbates58 wrote:hey mate, if your interested i did a bulk buy of some LED's for rocklights about a month ago, and i still have a heap left. pm me if you want pics or more info.

cheers

jbates58
pm me info if you can. Or send group buy link

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:14 am
by WICKED
11_evl wrote:
jbates58 wrote:hey mate, if your interested i did a bulk buy of some LED's for rocklights about a month ago, and i still have a heap left. pm me if you want pics or more info.

cheers

jbates58
pm me info if you can. Or send group buy link
Get your own hook ups you! :finger: lol

PM Sent

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:33 pm
by evanstaniland

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:26 pm
by A.J.
I use the oval supercrap ones, have had them for more then one year now.

What have you got? Supercheap oval cheapies

Were you get them? Supercheap

Price? On special around $25/pair

Durability? Still going but murky lense (mud and dust inside)

Have you had them completely under water? Hot/Cold? Yes/Yes (Lense cracks when hot)

Have you cracked the case (Rock's/Logs/etc)? Holding up fine, mounted well protected though.

Have you blown Bulbs? How offen? Never blown a bulb

How do you find them on the Battary? Not so good, they are 55w each, that's over 200w for all four........

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:36 pm
by me3@neuralfibre.com
A tip with LED's.

The single 1,3,5W LED's tend to be a lot better than the clusters of 20+ small 0.05w ones.

Harder to find though.

The brighter the light, the deeper the shadows. You really want diffused ligth to spread into the shadows.
12V fluoro's can be cheap and shed a lot of diffuse directional light. Easy to waterproof.

Paul