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Power steering hose blown...best /cheapest solution

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:26 am
by RN
The power steering hose blew on the TB42 Mav yesterday. It is the hose that is easily seen from the side of the pump looking from the passenger side.

Timing sucks but it means that I can't do all the chores I...um..promised. :armsup:

best /cheapest solution...factory, ebay or Nzed

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:39 am
by RAY185
Assuming you mean the high pressure hose? Enzed/Pirtek should be the cheapest option but I'd ring Nissan/Ford for a quote anyway.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:40 am
by chimpboy
Is it the high pressure side? If it's the low pressure side, anything will do - rubber hose with hoseclamps.

If it's the high pressure side take it to Enzed/Pirtek/any place that does hydraulic hoses, and they will replace the hose but use your old fittings for (probably) under $50. Probably while you wait.

Auto trans fluid for the refill.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:52 am
by Slunnie
Pirtek also Probably cost a max of $130.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:43 pm
by Jaffa
Stick a canary on it?





(sorry)

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:50 pm
by phippsy
If you can get a part number, I can at least give you what the factory price should be.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:19 pm
by brad-chevlux
chimpboy wrote:Is it the high pressure side? If it's the low pressure side, anything will do - rubber hose with hoseclamps.
No 'ANY thing' wont do. ATF will soften any hose that wasn't designed for it. heater hose and fuel hose won't last very long.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:01 pm
by RAY185
brad-chevlux wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Is it the high pressure side? If it's the low pressure side, anything will do - rubber hose with hoseclamps.
No 'ANY thing' wont do. ATF will soften any hose that wasn't designed for it. heater hose and fuel hose won't last very long.
True, you need to use oil rated hose.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:15 pm
by chimpboy
RAY185 wrote:
brad-chevlux wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Is it the high pressure side? If it's the low pressure side, anything will do - rubber hose with hoseclamps.
No 'ANY thing' wont do. ATF will soften any hose that wasn't designed for it. heater hose and fuel hose won't last very long.
True, you need to use oil rated hose.
*going outside to replace my cooler hoses now*

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:41 pm
by MICK77
RAY185 wrote:
brad-chevlux wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Is it the high pressure side? If it's the low pressure side, anything will do - rubber hose with hoseclamps.
No 'ANY thing' wont do. ATF will soften any hose that wasn't designed for it. heater hose and fuel hose won't last very long.
True, you need to use oil rated hose.
You must use hose that is suitable for ATF. Some hoses are fine for gear oil, but will perish if ATF is used.
Pirtek or similar will have the correct hose for that application.

Cheers,

Micko

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:09 pm
by bogged
one of the wreckers in dandenong.. get another one.

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:33 am
by LOCKEE
got one in East Burwood if you need to keep it going over Xmas

0432 443 552

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:47 am
by beinthemud
Were closed till Tuesday if you still need one buy then ill get one for you

let me know

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:14 am
by Yom
don't use just any old ATF either. a) use the shit nissan recommend (or equivalent) and b) do NOT mix fluids!

ATF fluids are not backward compatible.

Mega mistake alot of people make.

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:41 pm
by hokey
patrolapart sell the complete power steering hoses brand new. under a couple hundred i think

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:41 pm
by chimpboy
chimpboy wrote:
RAY185 wrote:
brad-chevlux wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Is it the high pressure side? If it's the low pressure side, anything will do - rubber hose with hoseclamps.
No 'ANY thing' wont do. ATF will soften any hose that wasn't designed for it. heater hose and fuel hose won't last very long.
True, you need to use oil rated hose.
*going outside to replace my cooler hoses now*
I wasn't kidding when I wrote this as I thought I had used fuel hose.

But I went and had a look and it turns out that I used official "power steering return hose". I don't even remember buying it but I must have been smarter that day :) I've got a bit left too.

RN - what did you end up doing?

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:28 pm
by RN
I took it to Enzed today in Dandenong and they replaced the high pressure hoses (pump and box.)

The problem that I now face is thus: Regarding the hoses that are bolted to the steering box.....there is a tab on one of the hose ends .
Looking at the box from the front of the vehicle which hole is the high pressure fitting. Left or right.

Does the 'tab' lock the hose to the trailing of the box when tightened.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:18 am
by RN
RN wrote:I took it to Enzed today in Dandenong and they replaced the high pressure hoses (pump and box.)

The problem that I now face is thus: Regarding the hoses that are bolted to the steering box.....there is a tab on one of the hose ends .
Looking at the box from the front of the vehicle which hole is the high pressure fitting. Left or right.

Does the 'tab' lock the hose to the trailing of the box when tightened.
I got's to know.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:35 am
by chimpboy
I know the tab on the pump end locks the fitting so it can't rotate with the banjo bolt. There is a u-shaped tab sticking out on the pump that the tab locks into.

I did not think there was a tab on the box but I would imagine that if there is a tab it would work in the same way as the pump end.

Can't help you on the other question, my manual is silent on this and simply says "remove the two banjo bolts".

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:51 am
by RN
chimpboy wrote:I know the tab on the pump end locks the fitting so it can't rotate with the banjo bolt. There is a u-shaped tab sticking out on the pump that the tab locks into.

I did not think there was a tab on the box but I would imagine that if there is a tab it would work in the same way as the pump end.

Can't help you on the other question, my manual is silent on this and simply says "remove the two banjo bolts".
Thanks Jason, my manual is also silent on the issue. I had hoped that the repairer hadn't switched the fittings over during the process. I am guessing that the HP fitting is attached to the left hole and the low pressure is the right one. 50/50 guess. The metal tab on the fitting would seem to assist in securing the fitting to the steering box .

Will have to suck it and see, unless a member can check their GQ and confirm which hole is the HP fitting and the relationship of this tag.

Memo to me ..take photos before disassembly. :roll:

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:01 pm
by MICK77
I will check mine when I get home for you RN.
Pics will be posted here.

Cheers,

Micko

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:30 pm
by RN
MICK77 wrote:I will check mine when I get home for you RN.
Pics will be posted here.

Cheers,

Micko
Cheers...but i have solved it. Visited a nissan dealer and the GU ( same as GQ) has the HP on the left closest to the guard. It is on now and nearly complete. Going to clean up the radiator, change the thermostat whilst I have the radiator out.

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:22 am
by MICK77
My camera shat itself so pics didn't happen. HP connects to the left lower of the two points.

Glad it's all sorted.

Cheers,

Micko

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:06 am
by chimpboy
RN wrote:I took it to Enzed today in Dandenong and they replaced the high pressure hoses (pump and box.)
What did Enzed slug you btw?

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:37 pm
by RN
chimpboy wrote:
RN wrote:I took it to Enzed today in Dandenong and they replaced the high pressure hoses (pump and box.)
What did Enzed slug you btw?
Slugged is the word...$130..for two pieces of rubber and ends. ( I replaced the entire HP side)

Pirtek didn't answer the phone and I assumed that they had closed for the duration..

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:48 am
by RN
Probably a blessing as both fan belts were ready to go, and it made me replace the radiator hoses also....the days of getting under the bonnet are waining. Use to like tinkering....

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:38 am
by ajsr
RN wrote:
chimpboy wrote:
RN wrote:I took it to Enzed today in Dandenong and they replaced the high pressure hoses (pump and box.)
What did Enzed slug you btw?
Slugged is the word...$130..for two pieces of rubber and ends. ( I replaced the entire HP side)

Pirtek didn't answer the phone and I assumed that they had closed for the duration..
two hoses still doesnt seem bad value for $130
considering all I get from you for $130 + is a little red piece of paper :finger: ;)

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:06 pm
by RN
ajsr wrote:
RN wrote:
chimpboy wrote:
RN wrote:I took it to Enzed today in Dandenong and they replaced the high pressure hoses (pump and box.)
What did Enzed slug you btw?
Slugged is the word...$130..for two pieces of rubber and ends. ( I replaced the entire HP side)

Pirtek didn't answer the phone and I assumed that they had closed for the duration..
two hoses still doesnt seem bad value for $130
considering all I get from you for $130 + is a little red piece of paper :finger: ;)

but....when you get the little red notice you have 42 days to pay...as for me, well I had to pay straight away. :D