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Guys,

I understand that bead locks are not legal on a street driven truck but can anyone tell me if Rock Ring/Rim Protectors are legal?

These rings weld onto the outer side of steel rims and protect the outer portion of the wheel from damage when offroading aswell as protecting the valve stem somewhat.

Heres a couple of pics from Yank Forums -









Any opinions/advice appreciated.

they seem fairly pointless unless your trying to impress people.

besides the valve, whats it stopping from happening? seems pointless.

HUSSLN wrote:besides the valve, whats it stopping from happening? seems pointless.

Would make the edge of the rim stronger, less likely to dent it at low tyre pressures, as mentioned in the first post.

I thought the "issue" with bead locks making them illegal was the welding to the rim ??

Thanks for your constructive input guys....yeah, as mentioned, they protect the edge of the rim from being dented or rolled in when aired down and crawling over rocks....no its not just for looks, they do serve a purpose...the fact that you can lasercut shapes into them is the choice of the manufacturer....

I wasnt sure about them because of the extra welding needed.....

alot of people run these things called internal beadlocks. so a rock ring would be ideal for there steel rims and they are not just used for the outside of rims, also used on the inside or rims which beleive it or not can also get dinted on a rock just like the outside of the rim lol.

yeah but like beadlocks they are still ileagal as your no allowed to weld the ring to the rim, so you may as well have the illegal beadlock as well than that poser crap.

so the legality issue lies with the extra weld to the rim correct?

as far as im aware that will be your issue

mmaaxx wrote:so the legality issue lies with the extra weld to the rim correct?

I believe that any rim modification is a problem, that includes another hole for a valve to an internal bead lock.

Dougster wrote:

mmaaxx wrote:so the legality issue lies with the extra weld to the rim correct?

I believe that any rim modification is a problem, that includes another hole for a valve to an internal bead lock.

What about getting centres moved for offset reasons? If its done by a professional wheel repairer for instance

your only allowed one weld around the circumfrence of the wheel

HUSSLN wrote:

Dougster wrote:

mmaaxx wrote:so the legality issue lies with the extra weld to the rim correct?

I believe that any rim modification is a problem, that includes another hole for a valve to an internal bead lock.

What about getting centres moved for offset reasons? If its done by a professional wheel repairer for instance

I don't know, if the wheel repairer can DOT approve the mod then should be all sweet I would think. Have not had it done so can't speak from experience.
Hopefully someone here who has done it can tell us.

I can't see the issue with these aslong as they are welded by a qualified person.....

Wheel mods and custom 3 peice wheels ARE legal, but I guess you would still need to convince DOT why you need wheel strengthening rings for road use???

Dougster wrote:

HUSSLN wrote:

Dougster wrote:

mmaaxx wrote:so the legality issue lies with the extra weld to the rim correct?

I believe that any rim modification is a problem, that includes another hole for a valve to an internal bead lock.

What about getting centres moved for offset reasons? If its done by a professional wheel repairer for instance

I don't know, if the wheel repairer can DOT approve the mod then should be all sweet I would think. Have not had it done so can't speak from experience.
Hopefully someone here who has done it can tell us.

I had it done and didnt think anything of it. But the can weld and repair wheels that never pass an approved inspection. Who knows. Guess it would become a huge issue if it failed an someone died.

Within the current ADR's, ADR 20 Safety Rims and ADR 24 Tyre and Rim selection have both been removed and supposedly added to ADR 42 as of 3/12/03.
The problem is there are no details on rims in ADR 42
No access to ADR 20 & ADR 24.
Anyone have it saved on their PC ??

Maybe I missed it, but can't find the info that used to be there.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... nline.aspx

I run some steel protector rings on the MT classic IIs i use for offroad on the 40.....protects the alloy rim from getting scratched etc (and I like the looks). Some pics and info in this old thread.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic132575-0-asc-0.php

QLD transport states no heating welding or cuting unless doing a repair.

Big_GQ wrote:QLD transport states no heating welding or cuting unless doing a repair.

so if it's part of repairing a dented rim?

2nd airs are legal though if u use their rim. if you like the look of their 80's style

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keep it that way

What if.......

The rock rings were designed as part of the steel wheel and were bolted on instead of welded on?

For example....mickey thompson classic lock wheels have an imitation beadlock on them that is bolted on -



If someone were to design a steel wheel that had threads going right around the outside that you could screw on/bolt on a steel rock ring/wheel protector then this would technically be legal would it not since you are not adding another weld.....you'd be legal, and benefit from the protection it gives.

Thoughts?

Agree with you mmaaxx, and some are available but only in alloy AFAIK.

What we need is a steel rim that is a real bead lock and is that way from factory and is ADR approved.

I don't know of one that currently exists.

Youd think there would be something on the market...it would sell like hot cakes.....

Surely theres some steel wheel manufacturers that could produce a wheel like that?

mmaaxx wrote:What if.......

The rock rings were designed as part of the steel wheel and were bolted on instead of welded on?

For example....mickey thompson classic lock wheels have an imitation beadlock on them that is bolted on -


If someone were to design a steel wheel that had threads going right around the outside that you could screw on/bolt on a steel rock ring/wheel protector then this would technically be legal would it not since you are not adding another weld.....you'd be legal, and benefit from the protection it gives.

Thoughts?

Pro Comp sell them
http://www.procomp.com.au/Default.asp?MenuId=WHEEL_0152

US Wheel too
http://www.uswheel.com/wheel.cfm?category=60
http://www.uswheel.com/wheel.cfm?category=91

Too quick for me Twisty



brooksy

Twisty/Brooksy, are they REAL bead locks cause they look like fake ones to me (just strengthening the rim).

Dougster wrote:Twisty/Brooksy, are they REAL bead locks cause they look like fake ones to me (just strengthening the rim).

Street Lock is a great alternative to a real bead lock.

Dougster wrote:Agree with you mmaaxx, and some are available but only in alloy AFAIK.

What we need is a steel rim that is a real bead lock and is that way from factory and is ADR approved.

I don't know of one that currently exists.

Fourby's "F" rims are steel and beadlocked, not sure on the approvals though, ask Ryan.

In saying that.

I cut out rock rings AND beadlocks if you are interested.

Here are some of my rock rings on 11Evil's tuff zook. They greatly strengthen the steel rim from bending and usual rock rash.

Dougster wrote:Agree with you mmaaxx, and some are available but only in alloy AFAIK.

What we need is a steel rim that is a real bead lock and is that way from factory and is ADR approved.

I don't know of one that currently exists.

Aren't the H1 Hummer wheels factory beadlocked? Have seen plenty of threads on Pirate of guys fitting H1 hummer wheels for there factory double beadlock.

Dougster wrote:Twisty/Brooksy, are they REAL bead locks cause they look like fake ones to me (just strengthening the rim).

Yeah, fake ones.....but were in reply to mmaxx's request for a legal steel rim with a strengthening ring.