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Next mod: Patrol GQ Hi steering project

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:43 am
by Mario
Already located the Koyo 103 (we drive on the wrong side of the road here in Panama) box with the bent pitman. Where can I buy this:

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Aim to make something like this:

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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:22 am
by SLASH
Hi mario, that looks like a jmac hi steer. Someone may correct me if im wrong. There was another guy on here with the same set up & he said it had excellent road manners. I have the info somewhere ill & dig it up & post it. Have you thought about swapping to MQ or GQ leaf sprung swivel hubs. It maybe a cheaper option. Heres a link if you didnt already know. Cheers Loz.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=5951

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:53 pm
by Mario
Thanks a lot slash. Tomorrow I'm off for work and I'll be taking a look at the MQ knuckles. Still not clear about it:

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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:53 pm
by SLASH
Hi Mario, this is the phone number, 0296715800. His name is Jamie Mcdonald. Dont forget it is a Aussie number. Also this is the link i got the info of. My user name was Loz at the time & the guys name that had it done was TSL wich i think is now 65Mog. Cheers Loz.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic118 ... ight=steer

Mate can i ask where you got those pics from? Cheers Loz.

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:49 am
by sudso
SLASH wrote:Hi mario, that looks like a jmac hi steer. Someone may correct me if im wrong. There was another guy on here with the same set up & he said it had excellent road manners. I have the info somewhere ill & dig it up & post it. Have you thought about swapping to MQ or GQ leaf sprung swivel hubs. It maybe a cheaper option. Heres a link if you didnt already know. Cheers Loz.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=5951
Looks like the panhard mount has been raised too. Trying to get the arms geometry's back closer to std by the looks to reduce the 'one way' bump steer effect of a lifted rig.

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:49 am
by SLASH
sudso wrote:
SLASH wrote:Hi mario, that looks like a jmac hi steer. Someone may correct me if im wrong. There was another guy on here with the same set up & he said it had excellent road manners. I have the info somewhere ill & dig it up & post it. Have you thought about swapping to MQ or GQ leaf sprung swivel hubs. It maybe a cheaper option. Heres a link if you didnt already know. Cheers Loz.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=5951
Looks like the panhard mount has been raised too. Trying to get the arms geometry's back closer to std by the looks to reduce the 'one way' bump steer effect of a lifted rig.
Yeh from what ive heard it pretty much eliminates all bumpsteer. Cheers Loz.

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:07 am
by Mario
SLASH wrote:Hi Mario, this is the phone number, 0296715800. His name is Jamie Mcdonald. Dont forget it is a Aussie number. Also this is the link i got the info of. My user name was Loz at the time & the guys name that had it done was TSL wich i think is now 65Mog. Cheers Loz.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic118 ... ight=steer

Mate can i ask where you got those pics from? Cheers Loz.
The first 2 ? Here:

http://www.downunder4x4.net/forum/showt ... 60d8&t=130

...of course, after some extensive browsing !

Thanks a lot buddy (or should I say mate ? ) !!

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:19 am
by SLASH
No sweat. Keep us posted on the progress. Cheers Loz.

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:10 pm
by Mario
UNDERSTOOD !

The tie rod is moved forward and the draglink attaches to it.

DUH (yeah, I'm not very smart !

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:53 pm
by Wendle
Mario wrote:UNDERSTOOD !

The tie rod is moved forward and the draglink attaches to it.

DUH (yeah, I'm not very smart !

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I built that very car, years ago. Any questions, just ask...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:56 pm
by SLASH
Wendle wrote:
Mario wrote:UNDERSTOOD !

The tie rod is moved forward and the draglink attaches to it.

DUH (yeah, I'm not very smart !

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I built that very car, years ago. Any questions, just ask...
Hi Wendle, i will be doing this conversion soon but with GQ leafy housings. Was wondering if you could answer a couple of questions, did you have any clearance issues with the chassis panhard mount with compression? I also run a xlink so im a bit worried i might have clearance issues with it also. When you reversed the tapers did you have a machine shop do this? I was told i had to run a bigger tie rod end than the stock nissan ones because when you reverse the taper the nut end of the tie rod will be a sloppy fit, if that all makes sense. Did you make your tie rod the same length as the stock rear one & did you run it with toe in or toe out? Cheers Loz.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:10 am
by Mario
Wendle wrote:
Mario wrote:UNDERSTOOD !

The tie rod is moved forward and the draglink attaches to it.

DUH (yeah, I'm not very smart !

Image
I built that very car, years ago. Any questions, just ask...
Thanks. What happened to the pics on the original post (the one on the bibles) ?

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:37 am
by Wendle
SLASH wrote: Hi Wendle, i will be doing this conversion soon but with GQ leafy housings. Was wondering if you could answer a couple of questions, did you have any clearance issues with the chassis panhard mount with compression? I also run a xlink so im a bit worried i might have clearance issues with it also. When you reversed the tapers did you have a machine shop do this? I was told i had to run a bigger tie rod end than the stock nissan ones because when you reverse the taper the nut end of the tie rod will be a sloppy fit, if that all makes sense. Did you make your tie rod the same length as the stock rear one & did you run it with toe in or toe out? Cheers Loz.
Didn't have any clearance issues, but I made a lower spring retainer that also padded out the bumpstop landing by about 50mm.

I did have a machine shop reverse the tapers, they also machined up tapered inserts (tapered inside and out) out of cr-mo so that the standard tapers still fitted correctly.
Can't remember the length of the tie-rod, I think I cut down the one I was running behind the axle (38mm hollow bar or similar) and used it again. The big tie-rod end on the passenger side is way long, so there should be a bit of length to play with.
I used to run about 15mm tow out just measured with a tape (37" tyres).

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:40 am
by Wendle
Mario wrote:
Thanks. What happened to the pics on the original post (the one on the bibles) ?


They were originally attached directly to the site when we could do that, then that function was no longer so someone else linked them from their photobucket. I didn't realise they had gone again. I'll get them back in there soon...

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:49 pm
by SLASH
Wendle wrote:
SLASH wrote: Hi Wendle, i will be doing this conversion soon but with GQ leafy housings. Was wondering if you could answer a couple of questions, did you have any clearance issues with the chassis panhard mount with compression? I also run a xlink so im a bit worried i might have clearance issues with it also. When you reversed the tapers did you have a machine shop do this? I was told i had to run a bigger tie rod end than the stock nissan ones because when you reverse the taper the nut end of the tie rod will be a sloppy fit, if that all makes sense. Did you make your tie rod the same length as the stock rear one & did you run it with toe in or toe out? Cheers Loz.
Didn't have any clearance issues, but I made a lower spring retainer that also padded out the bumpstop landing by about 50mm.

I did have a machine shop reverse the tapers, they also machined up tapered inserts (tapered inside and out) out of cr-mo so that the standard tapers still fitted correctly.
Can't remember the length of the tie-rod, I think I cut down the one I was running behind the axle (38mm hollow bar or similar) and used it again. The big tie-rod end on the passenger side is way long, so there should be a bit of length to play with.
I used to run about 15mm tow out just measured with a tape (37" tyres).
Thanx heaps for the info mate. Much appreciated. Cheers Loz.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:57 pm
by 76patrol
hey thanks wendle for makin this info available. I'm in the middle of doing this and swapping out my mq p/s box for a late modle gq one. will post pics when done. thanks again ray

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:53 pm
by Wendle
Mario wrote:Thanks. What happened to the pics on the original post (the one on the bibles) ?
Pics are back in there, they were all there in a big pile on the third page anyways...