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China Air lockers - EOI

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:10 pm
by jtraf
I am buying a couple sets for myself and want to see if there is any interest in a group buy to share the freight costs.

I am looking at bringing in the RD88 kit to suite the rear end of a Suzuki sierra and or front with upgraded axle with 26 spline shafts. Also suites Vitara front

The kit includes china air locker, compressor and all associated wiring and switches.......they have a 12mth parts warranty with the manufacturer in China

They will be $600 a unit if picked up in Melbourne or freighted in Aus for cost of freight on top.

If you want one you will need to pay upfront.

Not asking for opinions of what is better and reviews just let me know if you want in...very simple....

Re: China Air lockers - EOI

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:46 am
by thehanko
jtraf wrote:OK I am looking at buy some of these in and would like to know if there is any interest out there......

I am looking at bringing in the RD88 kit to suite the rear end of a Suzuki sierra and or upgraded axle front with 26 spline shafts..

The kit includes china air locker, compressor and all associated wiring and switches.......

They will be $600 a unit.....pick up in Melbourne

Is there any interest? These will be a dollars up front venture guys as I am not a business...........For the dollars I willing to give it a go.....
whats your warranty and parts back up going to be like? legitimate business or cashie?

you will need to be able to ship them to appeal to a larger market rather than pick up.

Re: China Air lockers - EOI

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:29 am
by jtraf
thehanko wrote:
jtraf wrote:OK I am looking at buy some of these in and would like to know if there is any interest out there......

I am looking at bringing in the RD88 kit to suite the rear end of a Suzuki sierra and or upgraded axle front with 26 spline shafts..

The kit includes china air locker, compressor and all associated wiring and switches.......

They will be $600 a unit.....pick up in Melbourne

Is there any interest? These will be a dollars up front venture guys as I am not a business...........For the dollars I willing to give it a go.....
whats your warranty and parts back up going to be like? legitimate business or cashie?

you will need to be able to ship them to appeal to a larger market rather than pick up.
They have a 12mths part warranty from the supplier. I can assit with interstate transport not an issue but that will be extrat cost. Price quoted is purchase and freight to Melbourne plus duty when it hits AUS....

Re: China Air lockers - EOI

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:36 am
by thehanko
jtraf wrote:
thehanko wrote:
jtraf wrote:OK I am looking at buy some of these in and would like to know if there is any interest out there......

I am looking at bringing in the RD88 kit to suite the rear end of a Suzuki sierra and or upgraded axle front with 26 spline shafts..

The kit includes china air locker, compressor and all associated wiring and switches.......

They will be $600 a unit.....pick up in Melbourne

Is there any interest? These will be a dollars up front venture guys as I am not a business...........For the dollars I willing to give it a go.....
whats your warranty and parts back up going to be like? legitimate business or cashie?

you will need to be able to ship them to appeal to a larger market rather than pick up.
They have a 12mths part warranty from the supplier. I can assit with interstate transport not an issue but that will be extrat cost. Price quoted is purchase and freight to Melbourne plus duty when it hits AUS....
sorry to harry on the same questions but what will parts back up be like? will you be carrying spare parts for after sales service? will it be cashie or sold from your business? as this effects customer security in product quality. i.e a business has certain requirments to back up their product if it has any issues.

ta

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:41 pm
by jtraf
I am not a business and will one of the people actually buying this unit.

I am going to buy one and so is another person I know and if we buy in large quantity it will be cheaper hence EOI for other similarly interested people.

I have been advised by seller in China that there is a 12mths parts warranty on all items in the kit. I am not offering warranty or parts after the initial purchase the Chinese company is.

At the end of the day a few more people will make it cheaper for all otherwise I will embark on an experiment with two units and see how I go.

Nothing ventured nothing gained....

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:13 pm
by ajsr
I'd try one
particularly on a vehicle that wasnt a daily
I have arb's so thats me out, but they would still be nicer than locklrights I'd bet.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:35 pm
by 11_evl
is it possible to get without the compressor and wiring switches??
if so almost definatly count me in

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:22 pm
by jtraf
11_evl wrote:is it possible to get without the compressor and wiring switches??
if so almost definatly count me in
only makes about $30 difference without.....not worth removing from kit

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:22 pm
by mrRocky
i would be very keen but have a cage to build first and chromo's, i wont be ready for 2 x rear lockers till easter. :(
will be watching for feed back.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:56 am
by 11_evl
No probs.
When are you looking to buy??

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:02 am
by money_killer
i reckon they are worth the try for $600 i would if i had spare money.

make sure u let us know how it goes.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:10 am
by brendan_h
i think its worth it. i wouldnt be worryed about braking the locker i would more be worryed about the relabilt of it as in to lock and unlock, leaks ect.

if it goes ahead i will be interested to put one in the front and get the real deal in the rear.

let me know if its going to happen

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:01 am
by thehanko
OK so your more or less organising a group buy. The first post gave me the impression you were going to start bringing them in to on-sell.

Good luck.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:15 pm
by jtraf
I have edited the post a number times to make it clearer. I said right from the start I am not a business and am looking at bringing some in for me and if there was any interest from the Outers community. I doubt you would find a business interested in selling these over the couter due to recource from ARB as they are a knock off.

I am going to put my bucks down and so is my brother. I need another three to make it a viable option to bring them in with a shared freight option.

From what I have read there are others out there already using them they have not has problems. And I have tried to find other that have experienced failure.
nissanbender wrote: I've been using there front locker in my Nissan comp truck for over 2 years with treated cvs and not a problem and i give it hell.
If anyone knows nissanbender first hand maybe he can shed a little more light on the build quality.....but two years in a comp patro will mean a lifetime in a weekend warrior sierra...

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:38 am
by Turbo Tonka
i have twin arbs here ready to go into my hilux......But only have a welded rear in my sierra.If i had or if i come across the spare cash and this is still happening id be keen to gove one a try.Who knows with my gentle driving style and 31s etc im sure i could make it last.

Theres a lot of other things china copies to a reasonable standard so what says they cant get a locker the same?If i could run one without troubles,stop chewing out tyres and "humping" around roundabouts etc they sure seem a worthy option

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:31 pm
by mrRocky
id be keen as if it were around april. But i would need 2x 26 spline as i will be needing one for the front with chromo's. (if that would work with the airlocker)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:37 pm
by zook4fun
when do you need the money by? it will have to be posted to 2262. pm me if you want.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:16 pm
by jtraf
Ok guys it is a learning experience for me so please be patient.

I am currently working on what it will cost to freight these locker kits to each state in australia. That way I can say $600 for the locker + XYZ to WA and XYZ to QLD.

Willl have this sorted out tomorrow or the next depending on if work goes to the dogs like most Mondays.

In relation to dollars I need to pay upfront so the expectation is if you are in you put your dollars with mine and away from there.

To keep costs down they will be sea freighted and not air so they will take a little longer to get here but we are all trying to save a buck.....

I will find the details for interstate freight and go from there. When this has been worked out I will confirm orders by a certain date and away we go.

Also have had a few PM's with people runnig these in the bigger trucks and so far all good news.......they are happy...

cheers

James

Re: China Air lockers - EOI

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:21 pm
by jtraf
jtraf wrote:
Not asking for opinions of what is better and reviews just let me know if you want in...very simple....
Not many rules but they seem real hard to follow????????

Re: China Air lockers - EOI

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:02 am
by joeblow
jtraf wrote:
jtraf wrote:
Not asking for opinions of what is better and reviews just let me know if you want in...very simple....
Not many rules but they seem real hard to follow????????

would you expect anything less from outers?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:50 am
by Gwagensteve
This is a forum, and forums rely on an exchange of information. As there is currently nobody who has said categorically they are "in", by your rules, there would be no replies. That means the thread dies. This is an eoi thread- you have to expect discussion, and to prove that's a good thing, it's resulted in you editing your original post.

If you don't want discussion post your product in the for sale section.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:36 pm
by jtraf
Gwagensteve wrote:This is a forum, and forums rely on an exchange of information. As there is currently nobody who has said categorically they are "in", by your rules, there would be no replies. That means the thread dies. This is an eoi thread- you have to expect discussion, and to prove that's a good thing, it's resulted in you editing your original post.

If you don't want discussion post your product in the for sale section.
Clarification in relation to the Group Buy yes most definatly but as was made very clear from the beginning of the thread no discussion in relation to the merits of the locker as it was either yes I am interest but what about freight etc or no....close thread and off you go.

If no one else decides to buy the China Locker well really there is nothing lost from my perspective. The thread dies.........who cares............I don't......

If you want to discuss the merits of different locking systems I am starting a new thread come over and share your wisdom great......at the end of the day $600 for the locker, compressor wiring and switches delivered to melbourne....extra for those interstate is not a lot of money considering....

Anyway want to talk lockers come to the discussion thread.....

Who is interest in joining the buy? that is all I am interested in here....no body then it will disappear into the back pages........... :roll: :roll:

cheers

James

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:05 am
by zook4fun
when are you buying them? if its in the next few weeks i'm out if its later i'm in.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:17 pm
by jtraf
At the moment I am dealing with customs as an order of 5 or more will attract their attention and duty will need to be paid. I am just working out what the rate of duty will be as I have calculated it using figures off the web site but I need to get it right so that there is not a great shock when it hits the ports.........

The government needs to makes it dollars too.

I will advise exactly when it will occur and update the post. I would say it is three to four weeks away from needing dollars committed if you want in

cheers
James

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:29 pm
by zookprojectfnq
Im keen, do you have a link to view these lockers?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:10 am
by thehanko
jtraf wrote:At the moment I am dealing with customs as an order of 5 or more will attract their attention and duty will need to be paid. I am just working out what the rate of duty will be as I have calculated it using figures off the web site but I need to get it right so that there is not a great shock when it hits the ports.........

The government needs to makes it dollars too.

I will advise exactly when it will occur and update the post. I would say it is three to four weeks away from needing dollars committed if you want in

cheers
James
the import side of things can be a killer. just to double check you dont short change yourself.

anything over approx $800 value will need to pay gst and duty, duty on the amount paid, the gst on amount paid, freight and duty.

you may also need to pay a customs clearance agent as well as any airport fees at this end to process the shipment.

it all adds up. so make sure you know your exact costs first so you dont get burnt trying to organise it for others.

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:12 am
by jtraf
thehanko wrote: the import side of things can be a killer. just to double check you dont short change yourself.

anything over approx $800 value will need to pay gst and duty, duty on the amount paid, the gst on amount paid, freight and duty.

you may also need to pay a customs clearance agent as well as any airport fees at this end to process the shipment.

it all adds up. so make sure you know your exact costs first so you dont get burnt trying to organise it for others.

Customs and the amount of duty and import fee's is proving difficult. They charge duty on the whole amount at a % inc freight and then charge 10% GST on top of that again. But am having difficulty getting a straight answer and don't want to stuff people around later.........once worked out I will advise and if people still interested it will go ahead.

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:50 pm
by murcod
I thought it was you pay on items worth over AUS$1000 not including the freight costs?

I recently imported some wheels from the USA and they came to over AUS$1000, but $250 odd of that was freight so I didn't get slugged anything.

Same thing with some tyres, came to around AUS$860 including freight and I wasn't charged anything. (I ordered them separately to avoid the "customs black hole".....)

Good luck with it. Perhaps try and get something in writing from customs on the charges to cover yourself?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:08 pm
by thehanko
murcod wrote:I thought it was you pay on items worth over AUS$1000 not including the freight costs?

I recently imported some wheels from the USA and they came to over AUS$1000, but $250 odd of that was freight so I didn't get slugged anything.

Same thing with some tyres, came to around AUS$860 including freight and I wasn't charged anything. (I ordered them separately to avoid the "customs black hole".....)

Good luck with it. Perhaps try and get something in writing from customs on the charges to cover yourself?
once you start paying fees it will definitely include the fee % on cost including freight costs as this is the 'landed value'.

dont get me wrong, some things arrive not taxed but if its all done legitimately you end up paying a fair whack.

The hardest part will be finding exactly what the lockers fall under for duty. the rest should be easy to calculate. (cost + freight) x 1.duty % x 1.1 = total cost if you can do the customs clearance yourself.

often there are several 'headings they can fall under... this is where it gets grey.

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:38 am
by daihill
anychance of shipping to uk or would tht be pointless