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i want to turbo a jimny
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:29 am
by BlitzMekenzie
i have a factory stock jimny ( new model one) had it for a few years now and wanna do a lil upgrade to it, i doh want any noisy ride, just want to boost it without any excessive noise. i wanted to know what i may need to get to do this project such as turbo size,intercooler size,piping, etc.and what the cost might be? also would it be cheaper to get the parts out of the already turbo jimny and just put it in, or can i get new parts and work from there which i would prefer once the price is good, thanks.
can someone give me a parts list of what i may need to get to do this? any suspension upgrades, brakes, cooling,etc. i dont want any fully mod.van just a lil bit of boost to play around with, its an auto tranny and im keeping it cuz other ppl use the van aswell, but any other tips? any engine mods to be done?etc. thanks
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:08 am
by alien
i'd be more inclined to supercharge than turbo - but do a search, its been done on a few sierras etc.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:18 pm
by BlitzMekenzie
why would you use a supercharger than a turbo?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:34 pm
by alien
supercharger gives boost low down while turbos generally are more for higher RPM. Theres threads on supercharging too if you search.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:44 pm
by 11_evl
i have most of the stuff to get you started. pm me if your interested.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:36 pm
by oozuk
alien wrote:supercharger gives boost low down while turbos generally are more for higher RPM. Theres threads on supercharging too if you search.
this is a old wise tail a well selected turbo will supply excellent low end torque
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:48 pm
by flyinwall
oozuk wrote:alien wrote:supercharger gives boost low down while turbos generally are more for higher RPM. Theres threads on supercharging too if you search.
this is a old wise tail a well selected turbo will supply excellent low end torque
is that an OLD WISE TAIL or an old wives tale
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:52 am
by BlitzMekenzie
true, but if i use a generally small turbo wouldnt that provide low end power as well?? and didnt the older jimny come turbo and it worked out prerry well??
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:12 pm
by Liljim
the current jimnys come in a 660cc turbo version in japan, the turbo from that would be too small, and none of the parts will match up.
a CT9 turbo from a starlet GT, or Glanza v would be a good size too, as they are designed for 1300cc engines, so it would boost at lower revs, if you're after all out power, go for a TDO4 from a wrx, they work really well on 1300s, a lot of torboed suzuki swifts, and toyota starlets run these.
As some have said already, look into a supercharger, one from a 4AGZE engined corolla would be perfect size, and you can change pulley sizes to get it to boost at lower or higher revs.
but either way you go, you'll have to have a lot of fabrication done, like an exhaust manifold for whatever turbo you want, or brackets for S.C. and custom piping for either.
Don't forget about engine management either, jimnys are EFI, which means you'll need an aftermarket computer, as i doubt there'll be any piggyback systems for the jimny. (unless another suzuki with the same EMS has? Ignus sport?)
for the whole job, unless you find a complete kit, or you're a fabrication wizz don't expect much change from $4000.
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:20 pm
by Gutless
Liljim wrote: don't expect much change from $4000.
I would have said $7000. He will most certainly need bigger injectors, fuel pump, regulator, and maybe even a custom fuel rail depending on what injectors are available for the application. That alone could add up to $2K. Then there is a manifold and exhaust as mentioned, intercooler and radiator requirements, oil and water supply and return lines for turbo, piping, BOV's and boost controllers/jets, and at the very least a GOOD piggyback ECU that can control fuel and timing. And then there is the Dyno time. Most places will charge well over $100hr, with a minimum of 4hrs for this sort of tune.
Done properly, this will cost upwards of $7K.
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:40 pm
by oozuk
Gutless wrote:Liljim wrote: don't expect much change from $4000.
I would have said $7000. He will most certainly need bigger injectors, fuel pump, regulator, and maybe even a custom fuel rail depending on what injectors are available for the application. That alone could add up to $2K. Then there is a manifold and exhaust as mentioned, intercooler and radiator requirements, oil and water supply and return lines for turbo, piping, BOV's and boost controllers/jets, and at the very least a GOOD piggyback ECU that can control fuel and timing. And then there is the Dyno time. Most places will charge well over $100hr, with a minimum of 4hrs for this sort of tune.
Done properly, this will cost upwards of $7K.
X2 my turbo conversion was a bottomless pit, if you planning only to do the job half assed then it's not worth doing at all
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:06 pm
by Remydog05
Youd be better off doing a Ca18det conversion, 4agze or simlar that way the motor has been made for boost!
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:52 am
by mud4b
i done it for just under 2g without the computer. this was sourcing parts from the usa as it was way cheaper than here in aus, i never did end up finishing it though as i sold it.
cheers mark.
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:48 pm
by Liljim
man....that is really cool.
is that manifold an off the shelf item?
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:46 pm
by mud4b
Liljim wrote:man....that is really cool.
is that manifold an off the shelf item?
No i think it was from a swift or toyota corolla, i then purchased the extractor plate and chopped and weldedthen ported it out.
cheers mark.
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:27 pm
by Gutless
mud4b wrote:Liljim wrote:man....that is really cool.
is that manifold an off the shelf item?
No i think it was from a swift or toyota corolla, i then purchased the extractor plate and chopped and weldedthen ported it out.
cheers mark.
Did you upgrade any of the fuel system? It would be hard to do without having an ECU for it. There is no way you could tell if the duty cycle of the injectors was enough for additional requirement due to turbo. Or the fuel pump, or reg, or rail.
So really you mounted a turbo and intercooler for 2G. Thats a far cry from a complete turbo install.
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:01 pm
by Rhett
I injected and turboed my serria motor for a few hundered bucks, later rebuilt the motor with gti rods, cultas pistons, moly rings ect for about a grand that included all machining. But I spent a lot of time doing it all making up custom harnesses dizzys manifolds ect.