Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hi Guys,

I posted here a few weeks ago about most capable fourby for under 9k. Seems the GQ got the nod over most.

Now ive decided to part with the 2nd car (03 Ford XR6 Turbo) and upgrade to a GU 1999-2001 model as the sale value of the Ford should match the buy value of the Nissan.

Can please get some advise on what to look out for in the 2.8L TD ? any other things i should know ?

Thanks heaps !!

my opinin don't get a 2.8 go the 4.2TD

X2

have a good look at the spring towers on the rear. they tend to crack were they join on too chassis

td4.2t x3
Don't waste your time on a 3lt grenade
(early 3lt gu's)
If you are goin to run decent rubber of tow, you will find the 2.8 underpowered.

If you hunt around you will find a good 4.2, but it will take some finding.

I have recently brought a td4.2t GU, I searched all over the eastern states and only looked at a handful. I was lucky and got a one owner with low kays ,bogstock appart from bullbar and tow bar. It has full service history with only 100,000 km's and I only paid $20,000. So if your not in a hurry they are out there, just few and far between.
Good luck with your search.

If it was a choice between 2.8TD GU or 4.2 EFI GQ at the same money I'd go for the GU, not everyone has the extra 5-10k for a 4.2 petrol or td. You still get the stronger axles & CVs, 4.6 diff gears, better brakes, better interior, updated looks.

td42 all the way

OzTeXs wrote:Hi Guys,

I posted here a few weeks ago about most capable fourby for under 9k. Seems the GQ got the nod over most.

Now ive decided to part with the 2nd car (03 Ford XR6 Turbo) and upgrade to a GU 1999-2001 model as the sale value of the Ford should match the buy value of the Nissan.

Can please get some advise on what to look out for in the 2.8L TD ? any other things i should know ?

Thanks heaps !!

Don't worry tex nobody seems to read the origanel qestions in here

Youve done your reseach you made up your mind on what you want
you have your budget

Ask your qestion in the nissan section you might get some help in there
Or try the patrol forum

Sorry i carnt help i own a toyota
but a mate had a 2.8 put the chip in it & a 3" exhurst and it went pretty good & had orsom economy

www.patrol4x4.com good site, tons and tons of info

I have a 2.8 GU and yes you can get a good amount of grunt for playtime, BUT I suggest if your considering it (as they are pretty damn cheap way to get into a GU) take it for a test drive, and make sure the engine is warm before building an opinion.

Just personally, after owning a v8 falcon before it, Im kinda wishing I paid a bit more and got the 4.2 turbo grunter. Because at the end of the day, if you know you want grunt, your gonna be spending alot more on a 2.8 which will be the equivalent to a 4.2 in money spent, but not quite power IMHO.

As for 3litre diesels zd30, I personnaly will never ever touch one, but it seems there are guys who will argue black and blue that you can make them reliable, koudos to them, but a reputation is a reputation to me.

hmm .. the 4.2td would drink much more fuel then the 2.8td ??

my xr6 turbo does 15L/100kms .. its just way too much.

OzTeXs wrote:hmm .. the 4.2td would drink much more fuel then the 2.8td ??

my xr6 turbo does 15L/100kms .. its just way too much.

I get about 14.5litres/100km, 4.2s are not much different - depending on alot of things though but on average, its a fair comment.

I have 33's, big bullbar, 3inch lift, winch, snorkel and with a full tank and me it weighs 2800kilos. So the above figures are pretty good as far as fuel consumption goes.

As I've said, there is quite a few threads on this at www.patrol4x4.com

cheers

4.2 shouldn't use much more, to give an example went up to Burrum heads for a hol with the GF and her parents, her old man towed the boat with his patrol (4.2TD) boat had eskies full of drinks, luggage and all the fishing gear in it and the back of the patrol had 2 fridges full of food and 4 people, I took m hilux (2.4TD) with the crab pots, tv, BBQ and some other gear. We both sat on 95-100km/h and teh Patrol used about $4 more fuel than the hilux.

yeah .. the 4.2td is hard to get .. bugger

yeah iam already on patrol4x4.com

i suppose the 4.5l petrol with GAS is another option ?

something like this but with GAS >> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWAX:IT

OzTeXs wrote:yeah iam already on patrol4x4.com

i suppose the 4.5l petrol with GAS is another option ?

something like this but with GAS >> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWAX:IT

An auto, and better still, with those tyres, would not be very economical even on gas IMO.

so should manual be a must .. i used to own a XJ cherokee and the auto offroad was awesome, although the 4.0l straight six did help

Don't get the 2.8 or 3 L you will regret it eventually as have so many before . The ones that say "I've got one and never had a problem there good" are secretly awake at night praying it will hold out until they can afford to move on . If you can't find a 4.2d in a GU for the money maybe there's a pristine GQ lurking in the shadows turbo could be fitted and still have money for the fun stuff.

OzTeXs wrote:so should manual be a must .. i used to own a XJ cherokee and the auto offroad was awesome, although the 4.0l straight six did help

Nothing wrong with either go whichever you get for the right price or which you would really prefer to drive over the other. I had an auto 4.8 and it was a monster did everything I asked and downhills were not that big a deal. Beach was great and driving rocks with your head out the window guiding and left foot pedaling is soo much easier than an independant spotter .

Bear in mind you cannot get an auto 4.2 and I can't remember if you cna get an auto 2.8. The auto apparently made the 3.0 a nicer truck to drive and may do the same to a 2.8 for the same reasons, not sure never had a 2.8 but don't personally like them.

Like stated make sure you get a good long drive of a 2.8 in case you don't like it and don't spend heaps after trying to make it like a 4.2. Mind you they are pretty asmatic in standard trim also.

I think the petrol GU's on gas are a fine truck for the money but that example looks a little steep probably cause of it's mods. I've seen similar condition TI GU's selling for that money, some already on gas and that would be my pick if I were to go petrol. A bit of luxury to compare to your XR6.

OzTeXs wrote:so should manual be a must .

Nope, auto should be a must...

iam starting to get turned off the whole GU "Slash" Nissan bit ..

now considering ..

80 Series
Prado

OzTeXs wrote:iam starting to get turned off the whole GU "Slash" Nissan bit ..

now considering ..

80 Series
Prado

Depends on what you are looking for. Both toyotas are the pick over the GU if your idea of 4wd is hitting the beach every so often.

nah not interested in the beach at all.

but seems the 2.8td is hard to avoid since the 4.2td is hard to find for a good price.

OzTeXs wrote:iam starting to get turned off the whole GU "Slash" Nissan bit ..

now considering ..

80 Series
Prado

Horses for courses, I would consider both inferior but it's a personal choice thing really. Prado however is in a completely different ball park depending on what you really want the vehicle for.

stick with the nissan, much more capable in stock form, the 4.5l petrols are heavy on fuel i have a auto it gets 5km/L, which is the same as my gq with a 5.7l v8 but having said that i paid $16000 for a ti with arb bullbar, warn winch, dual batteries, etc, where any 4.2d where about $25000. the 4.2 use very little fuel, i would sau it would be about the same as the 2.8, the 4.2 dont have to work any where near as harder as the smaller motors

I got about 12+ litres per 100 on a recent trip to SA. Sat on about 115 all the way bar the 100k zones. i reckon I could have done better if I sat on 95 the entire way. TD42T

I got about 12+ litres per 100 on a recent trip to SA. Sat on about 115 all the way bar the 100k zones. i reckon I could have done better if I sat on 95 the entire way. TD42T

I got about 12+ litres per 100 on a recent trip to SA. Sat on about 115 all the way bar the 100k zones. i reckon I could have done better if I sat on 95 the entire way. TD42T

OzTeXs wrote:nah not interested in the beach at all.

but seems the 2.8td is hard to avoid since the 4.2td is hard to find for a good price.

there is a reason for that.. Supply and demand. they are in high demand for a reason...

OzTeXs wrote:nah not interested in the beach at all.

but seems the 2.8td is hard to avoid since the 4.2td is hard to find for a good price.

if you think the nissan 4.2td is hard to find for a good price, then the cruisers will seem even harder to find for a good price, the 80 diesels in nice trim are up there for their age.

damn .. very hard choice .. i might have to step back down to a GQ with a 4.2d if i can find one.

now iam even considering the zooks