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Hey Guys,

I know i should just go buy some LF 170's but they are quite expensive and dont really use em enough to justify spending heaps on spotties. So just after some opinions on some good value spotties that you have used. For instance looking at the Narva Ultima 175.

Cheers

sir_camel wrote:Hey Guys,

I know i should just go buy some LF 170's but they are quite expensive and dont really use em enough to justify spending heaps on spotties. So just after some opinions on some good value spotties that you have used. For instance looking at the Narva Ultima 175.

Cheers

if you cant justify payin good $ for good items, you certainly cant justify paying good $ for shit ones.

You will regret paying anything for cheap shit ones that will break, viabrate apart, have crap light, pay for what you get..

Yea i know you pay for what you get, but i still see stacks of 4by's on the road and comp rigs in events with lights like the Narva's. Just seeing if anyone has experiences with any of them.

bogged wrote:

sir_camel wrote:Hey Guys,

I know i should just go buy some LF 170's but they are quite expensive and dont really use em enough to justify spending heaps on spotties. So just after some opinions on some good value spotties that you have used. For instance looking at the Narva Ultima 175.

Cheers

if you cant justify payin good $ for good items, you certainly cant justify paying good $ for shit ones.

You will regret paying anything for cheap shit ones that will break, viabrate apart, have crap light, pay for what you get..

Nah, don't take advice like this too seriously. The Narvas are awesome for the money paid. You can get 175's for about $125 from Repco. Click HERE for a current thread on overlander about this topic.

Cheers

sir_camel wrote:Yea i know you pay for what you get, but i still see stacks of 4by's on the road and comp rigs in events with lights like the Narva's. Just seeing if anyone has experiences with any of them.

Ebay has them cheap.. go for it.

There was a comparo a while back in one of the magazines and the Ultimas won for light output and distribution. That test included a set of Lightforces......

I've got a set of normal Narvas and reckon they're really good. They give out a decent light (over 300m) and at least if some scum knocks them off I haven't lost mega dollar lights.

murcod wrote:There was a comparo a while back in one of the magazines and the Ultimas won for light output and distribution. That test included a set of Lightforces.....

Few months before the opposition magazine had a light test... Lightforce won, and narva lost.. Both follwed the tests by 2 page spread adverts, + you could WIN a set if you subscribed to the magazines...

Now you see why I dont buy magazines anymore?

bogged wrote:Now you see why I dont buy magazines anymore?

Agreed

Yes, you have to wonder sometimes about comparo tests.

It would also be very hard to give any scientific measurements or justification for which light is best- it all comes down to whatever the "judge" thinks is best......

Maybe the test I saw took price into consideration too? I think it was Overlander magazine that did it - I saw it in the local library ages ago and had a quick read.

Out of the cheaper lights i have ever used, i have used Nightstalker 225's before in a Spotlight style, they worked pretty good, and couldn't complain for the price.

But the best value light i have gotten were the LF 170's i currently have, all you need to do is get your dad to buy a new truck, and have him take them off and replace them with a set of Bull Lights.

Try the NANE 2100's they rock for the price. I have 2 pairs. Just as good as HELLA rallye 2000's

cheers

I've had a set of narva 175's for quite a while and they're great for the price I paid, plus if they get knocked off its only a hundred bucks compared to 300 or 400 bucks as happened to a mate of mine

i just bought some crappy "nightvision" spotties from supercheap... $100 for a set. i bought 2 sets for my roll bar. looks ok. the light is about as good as is gets for 100 bucks. as whats-his-name said, get cheapo ones for when some bastard nocks them off you wont give a shit.

Ebays the way to go for spotties in there.

I wouldnt sell yourself short on lights.

Really.. in the end.. its your taste that matters.. how it suits your car etc etc..

Then you'll be happy....

LF kick arse in the brightness department but best bang for buck is Narva.

i hate to sounds like another LF groupie, but the 170s have gotta be one of the best things i've ever bought for my 4by. they are fully immersable (sp? ie: can get wet), you can adjust the beam for spread or spot, the are really really bright, they handle being flicked on and off really well, and are really strong - no signs of stress from being bounced around all the time.

the interchangeable lenses are awesome too. no chance of cracking them, they'll even prolly survive a head on... insanely strong... seen a guy belting them with a hammer, only minor discolouration. can get a spreader beam so u get a real wide light, or colours (red, blue, yellow...), and my fav - the full dispersion lense: spreads the light really well so u don't get a focused point, but good light for almost 180 degrees. best thing for night runs over obstacles...

and no, i don't work for lightforce, lol.

gday i run hella 4000s on my zook and they are brilliant
i got them for 300 out of the trading post
but i also run nightstalker 170 rounds on my fleet of hzj75 work trucks
very very good for 150 bucks with wiring
in that mag test refered to above LF first, hella4s second, nightstalkers third and best value for money
just my $0.02 worth

4WD Monthly gave the Nightstalkers a good wrap. Particularly, best value for money.

I have personally seen them on 2 different rigs and they leave my Cibie Oscars for dead

I don't reckon it would hurt as much if someone knocked off my $100 lights rather than my $500 lights. Plus, $100 lights are less likely to be targeted.

And I figure unless you are doing 200km/hr, why do you need lights that replicate the sun rising They dont help me when I am rock crawling

Dan

BTW - I just threw in that last point because I am jealous that I can't afford LF

Shorty40 wrote:4WD Monthly gave the Nightstalkers a good wrap. Particularly, best value for money.

I would certainly buy a set again and definantly buy them over a set of Narvas.
Only reason i don't have them is because i got a set of Lightforce 170's for free.

Shorty40 wrote:4WD Monthly gave the Nightstalkers a good wrap. Particularly, best value for money.

GOOD light for value of money. They have an absolute shit mounting system which when got rusty and i needed to remove them as some lowlife c*nt tried to pinch them and they were loose (had locknuts on em) and turned them with the key to find that the the whole bolt and nut rotated together - basically a stuffed mount which required the grinder to come out and the light went in the bin.

Not happy.. but Ive settled for lightforces for now

TOM

bogged wrote:

murcod wrote:There was a comparo a while back in one of the magazines and the Ultimas won for light output and distribution. That test included a set of Lightforces.....

Few months before the opposition magazine had a light test... Lightforce won, and narva lost.. Both follwed the tests by 2 page spread adverts, + you could WIN a set if you subscribed to the magazines...

Now you see why I dont buy magazines anymore?

Oh and I thought it was because your eyesight was deteriorating due to recreational habits...

I'll stand by a lux meter reading and side by side comparo anyday or night as the case maybe... Yours sincerely the 3rd Gunman

AVGAS_502 wrote:Oh and I thought it was because your eyesight was deteriorating due to recreational habits...

If only i could count to 99, or last that long anyway

Had a pair of 175's good light for the $ then got a pair of LF240's for the right price will not be going back

Dave

I think the best light would have to be Lightforce HID's, but bang for bucks would have too be Lightforce 240 Blitz.

Cheezy4x4 wrote:I think the best light would have to be Lightforce HID's, but bang for bucks would have too be Lightforce 240 Blitz.

Best light they may be.. but nearly over a grand EACH

Is it night time I never noticed

GQ wrote:

Cheezy4x4 wrote:I think the best light would have to be Lightforce HID's, but bang for bucks would have too be Lightforce 240 Blitz.

Best light they may be.. but nearly over a grand EACH

I work for LF and my choice... 240 XGTS @ $495 pr... (same performance as blitzes but in HID housing).

More than one way to skin a cat;)

AVGAS_502 wrote:

GQ wrote:

Cheezy4x4 wrote:I think the best light would have to be Lightforce HID's, but bang for bucks would have too be Lightforce 240 Blitz.

Best light they may be.. but nearly over a grand EACH

I work for LF and my choice... 240 XGTS @ $495 pr... (same performance as blitzes but in HID housing).

More than one way to skin a cat;)

got my XGT's for 460 a pair

TOM

I've wondered for a while now just what is the difference between Blitz's and XGT's. So why pay $100 more for a set if they both have same output?[/list][/code]

slosh wrote:I've wondered for a while now just what is the difference between Blitz's and XGT's. So why pay $100 more for a set if they both have same output?[/list][/code]

Its aboutn the looks ..... XGT's look horn