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to all you 45 owners i will be attemping to be building a tray for my 45

and just wondering what others have made and what you's have made it out of.

if you could post pictures that would be great.

i will need space to fit a surfboard or 2 , esky, swag and a spare tyre on top.


thanks fella's.

any one

try a search mate

Try the Members thread ,Theres boundto be a build up on them

ok thanks mate
ill have a look

ok thanks mate
ill have a look

Build It Out Of RHS, Or SHS Steel Because Pipe's Hollow... Therefore, More Easier To Bend.. And The RHS And SHS Has Four Walls, Allows More Reinforcement To Strengthen It... Just A Suggestion

MANCRUISER wrote:Build It Out Of RHS, Or SHS Steel Because Pipe's Hollow... Therefore, More Easier To Bend.. And The RHS And SHS Has Four Walls, Allows More Reinforcement To Strengthen It... Just A Suggestion

RHS ?
SHS?

MANCRUISER wrote:Build It Out Of RHS, Or SHS Steel Because Pipe's Hollow... Therefore, More Easier To Bend.. And The RHS And SHS Has Four Walls, Allows More Reinforcement To Strengthen It... Just A Suggestion

Can a Pipe be Square

beinthemud wrote:

MANCRUISER wrote:Build It Out Of RHS, Or SHS Steel Because Pipe's Hollow... Therefore, More Easier To Bend.. And The RHS And SHS Has Four Walls, Allows More Reinforcement To Strengthen It... Just A Suggestion

Can a Pipe be Square

can that post ^^^ make less sense??




RHS = Rectangular Hollow Section
SHS= Square Hollow Section

Build it out of whatever you like the look of and reinforce as neccessary.

I have seen a couple of trays made with cattle yard rail for the sides which I reckon looks good.

What my one
I wasent being smart ,I was just asking I dont realy Know steel types

beinthemud wrote:What my one
I wasent being smart ,I was just asking I dont realy Know steel types

i dont no my steels either mate.

can any one tell me what a RHS and SHS is?

rhs is square steel tubing

RHS = Rectangular Hollow Section (rectangular tube ie 100x50mm)
SHS= Square Hollow Section (sqare tube ie 50x50mm)

80's_delirious wrote:RHS = Rectangular Hollow Section (rectangular tube ie 100x50mm)
SHS= Square Hollow Section (sqare tube ie 50x50mm)

sweet thank you.

what about tube steel ?
would that be just as strong as SHS , RHS

Nope... RHS and SHS Is The Go Mate... Tube is Pipe..

well im going to have a tube front bar and tube rock sliders so dont no how it would look with a square edging tray

mancrusier you wouldnt happen to have any photos
that you could show me ?

Hey mate i built a tray for my 45ser used 2 75x50 RHS main rails with 75mm Preformed channel and 10mm plate for the mounts it was fairly simple then made the outside frame from 65x30 rhs and 40x40 shs acroos for the floor to mount onto. I will get some photos up soon as it stops raining and i can get to the ute. I built a Tube tray for a mates GU it was alot of work notching the pipe and get the bends the same from side to side i turned out real good suited him but useless for carring anything really.

skootin wrote:Hey mate i built a tray for my 45ser used 2 75x50 RHS main rails with 75mm Preformed channel and 10mm plate for the mounts it was fairly simple then made the outside frame from 65x30 rhs and 40x40 shs acroos for the floor to mount onto. I will get some photos up soon as it stops raining and i can get to the ute. I built a Tube tray for a mates GU it was alot of work notching the pipe and get the bends the same from side to side i turned out real good suited him but useless for carring anything really.

thanks for that mate . the pictures would be good

These are a couple of old ones if you need more i can get some next week.

nice work mate looks good

so more photos would be great

thank you

any one else have any photos of trays ?
mainly on a 45 but any others still good

thanks

MANCRUISER wrote:Nope... RHS and SHS Is The Go Mate... Tube is Pipe..

no actually it's not. different standards of measurement for a start.

and what's wrong with tube anyway? if Rhs and SHS was so much stronger, why is it manditory to make rollcages out of tube??? why are buggies built out of tube?

and if the problem is that tube is "hollow" WTF does the H in RHS and SHS stand for? and why isn't that a problem?

A pipe is a vessel, tube is structural..

bad_religion_au wrote:

MANCRUISER wrote:Nope... RHS and SHS Is The Go Mate... Tube is Pipe..

no actually it's not. different standards of measurement for a start.

and what's wrong with tube anyway? if Rhs and SHS was so much stronger, why is it manditory to make rollcages out of tube??? why are buggies built out of tube?

and if the problem is that tube is "hollow" WTF does the H in RHS and SHS stand for? and why isn't that a problem?

thats what had me stumped .
wouldnt they have the same sort of strenght?

the diff is tube will dend and bend with a hard enough hit, rhs will do the same but will stand up to it better.. ( think having to bend 4 edges (corners) as aposed to none, have you ever tried to bend a box?? not to say it can't be done but take more force, but by the sounds mate this is gunna be a driver, don't sound like you will be chasing mountain goast mt everst so either would do.

im building (slowley) a 45, due to cash flow and having time, i built it out of my old tray, i cut the sides level with the floor of the tray and moved it to sit on the floor of the tray and weld'd it on, and used the cut off for the back of the tray, it's not finished but ill post some pics, all it cost was welding wire and cutting disc's, ( hard to explain but it's make sense when i post pic's

loosecanon wrote:the diff is tube will dend and bend with a hard enough hit, rhs will do the same but will stand up to it better.. ( think having to bend 4 edges (corners) as aposed to none, have you ever tried to bend a box??

wrong.

Rollcages are specified to be made out of round tube for a reason... that reason is round tube is stronger than the same wall thickness RHS or SHS. a cylinder is the strongest overall shape. your RHS 100 x 50 x 3mm might be stronger than tube on the corner (dunno myself), but cop a hit to the middle of the 100mm face, it will bend and dent easily. almost as easily as a piece of 3mm flat stock...

he is asking about a try, not a rollcage. Just use SHS or RHS. It will be fine. Otherwise keep your eyes open and buy a secondhand tray. They sometimes come up for a decent price.

bad_religion_au wrote:

loosecanon wrote:the diff is tube will dend and bend with a hard enough hit, rhs will do the same but will stand up to it better.. ( think having to bend 4 edges (corners) as aposed to none, have you ever tried to bend a box??

wrong.

Rollcages are specified to be made out of round tube for a reason... that reason is round tube is stronger than the same wall thickness RHS or SHS. a cylinder is the strongest overall shape. your RHS 100 x 50 x 3mm might be stronger than tube on the corner (dunno myself), but cop a hit to the middle of the 100mm face, it will bend and dent easily. almost as easily as a piece of 3mm flat stock...

are u talking about a roll cage in the car or on the tray ?