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60 series diff into 75-same diff!?
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:11 pm
by 83-mud-lux
got a mate that has a spare 60 series diff sitting around in his backyard and he wants to know if he can put it into a 75 series 3f petrol ute.
the 60 series is diesel (2h) and 75 is petrol (3f) so the diff gears would be different wouldnt they?
there both disc brake front end so i cant imagine it being to hard but just want to make sure cause its a daily driver.
thanks..smiley..
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:49 am
by dogbreath_48
Just the center or the entire axle assembly?
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic197623.php
not sure on ratios but I think they're all 4.11
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:24 am
by WALKS
wont fit without moving spring perches 60 housing is wider +-3"
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:17 am
by vk7ybi
Id like to know how people go about moving the spring perches on a 60 housing to make it fit in the front of 40/70 series.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:24 am
by rockcrawler31
vk7ybi wrote:Id like to know how people go about moving the spring perches on a 60 housing to make it fit in the front of 40/70 series.
cut old ones off
weld new ones on
just sayin is all.....
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:30 am
by vk7ybi
So when the DS perch wants to sit in the diff centre and you cannot get a U bolt installed, what do you do? I dont think you understand the application properly.. If it were as simple as doing what you said, I would not have asked the question.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:40 am
by hulsty
It is that simple, cut old ones off, weld new ones in, just you have to cut a chunk out of the housing to fit the new one in.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:45 am
by vk7ybi
Show me where your inner DS U bolt is.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:30 am
by crustybj60
rockcrawler31 wrote:vk7ybi wrote:Id like to know how people go about moving the spring perches on a 60 housing to make it fit in the front of 40/70 series.
cut old ones off
weld new ones on
just sayin is all.....
60 axles in a 40 won't work like that in the front, you need to out board the spring hangers. not that hard to do.
60 rear in a 40 will work with new perches, there is enough room on the 60 axle housing, and the 40 chassis is wider in the back.
there are heaps of build ups and info on exactly this on ih8mud. i'm sure there are a few here on outer as well.
a quick search will find you HOURS of reading and tons of pics of 60 axles in 40's and 55's and a few 70's IIRC.
i know nothing about 70's, but i do know the centers will fit.
cheers
crusty
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:36 am
by vk7ybi
Perhaps I suck at searching, I've found nothing of any real use..
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:49 am
by hulsty
Rear is easy, cut off old mounts and weld on new mounts in the correct position for the leaves. Use a 60 series hand brake cable and your pretty much set.
Front is ALOT more work, can either outboard the springs or cut into the housing, we chose to cut into the housing. Some pics!
Only runs one U bolt on the outside, the inner side uses two bolts that screw into the 12mm plate that is cut into the housing
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:05 pm
by vk7ybi
Any installed pics detailing the spring plate and bolts? How does this setup hold up to abuse?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:59 pm
by crustybj60
found this, there is some good info on inner axle lengths and WMS dim's etc...
cheers
crusty
http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-te ... ost1201724
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:03 pm
by vk7ybi
There is nothing there that deals with the inner short side U bolt problem. Outboarding springs is not an option for some.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:44 pm
by hulsty
No pics, bolts just work through the standard holes. Been in for a few months now with 36''s, no problems.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:49 pm
by vk7ybi
The advantage with the 70 series is that theres 10mm more width to work with, thats 5 more that you can spare in the notch.. that is significant with this type of modification..
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:50 pm
by rocky75ute
diff gear ratios will be different. im not sure about width, but his center should bolt straight into the other if he just wanted the housing.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:58 pm
by crustybj60
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:10 pm
by vk7ybi
I've read all that, seen all those pictures.
The axle housing extension is the most elegant solution, however that introduces not standard axle lengths, something that people might not want..
The lowenbrau notch and tapping block is probably the neatest execution of the notch I've seen so far..
Then theres the RuffStuff solution..
I am still interested in what others have done..
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:27 am
by hulsty
rocky75ute wrote:diff gear ratios will be different. im not sure about width, but his center should bolt straight into the other if he just wanted the housing.
Diff ratios are the same for most 40,60 and 70 series cruisers. They might be the odd 3.7 ratio out there though.