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standard turbo off vl

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:30 pm
by rabs
i can get ahold of a turbo off a VL to put on my patrol, only thing it blows a little smoke at idle so im gunna rebuild it, where can i get a rebuild kit for it i dont know what sorta turbo they are standard i looked on ebay and found http://cgi.ebay.com.au/GARRETT-T3-T4-TU ... 27ae46a06a

would that rbuild kit work? it says for vl

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:00 am
by Brunsy
If you have never rebuilt a turbo save yourself the headache and get it done, its got to be balanced anyway so you wont be able to do it yourself anyway.
The kits are 70-90$ on ebay.
BTW the standard turbo was terrible on my GQ and I always thought it would be, it boosted way to low in rpm. Not a problem around town but it was terrible in low range.
Look for a T4 with .96 or 1.06 exhaust much much better even using your standard VL compressor wheel.

This is what if found anyway, have turboed just a few RB30's in my time.

Also if you realy want that turbo check for cracks down the inlet to the turbine housing and around wastegate offen they are destined for the bin.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:03 am
by coxy321
What engine does your patrol have rabs?

FWIW, although i'm more than capable of rebuilding turbos, i'd just as soon send it to a workshop for a rebuild. A basic rebuild will cost between $350 and $600, and a rebuild with high flow and other tweaks can cost up to $1300.

At least a workshop will give you some warranty.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:45 pm
by macneil
Brunsy wrote:If you have never rebuilt a turbo save yourself the headache and get it done, its got to be balanced anyway so you wont be able to do it yourself anyway.
The kits are 70-90$ on ebay.
BTW the standard turbo was terrible on my GQ and I always thought it would be, it boosted way to low in rpm. Not a problem around town but it was terrible in low range.
Look for a T4 with .96 or 1.06 exhaust much much better even using your standard VL compressor wheel.

This is what if found anyway, have turboed just a few RB30's in my time.

Also if you realy want that turbo check for cracks down the inlet to the turbine housing and around wastegate offen they are destined for the bin.
rofl! do you go out bush u want boost low down to keep the car moving... keep traction.. t4 would be for a big hp engine.. laggy boost would be crap to drive out in the bush

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:39 pm
by kopdis
im with macneil there i ran a t4 as thats what i had kicking around off the old vl was great racing commys down the street but in the bush it was a pig went no where try getting a good T3 boost it up see how that goes for ya

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:07 pm
by coxy321
I think you guys might be jumping the gun a bit there. For all we know, he might have a TB48 in his patrol....

Rab, you need to tell us what motor you have before anyone can make suggestions.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:56 pm
by mat_p
he is running a td42...went through his old posts.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:41 pm
by Feenz
macneil are you implying you need boost off road to keep moving, that is the 11th stupidest thing i've heard this decade. Why the hell would he want boost in low first? If your low is in fact not that low, up your diff gears or spend the money on rockhoppers.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:55 pm
by kopdis
yeah true sorry was thinking rb30 my bad

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:08 pm
by cooki_monsta
dion your close, but seeing as how its a td, a t3 is going to be big, a t4, way too big, go a gt28r, roller bearing turbo :D they are perfect :twisted:

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:36 am
by coxy321
I run a VG30DET turbo on my TD42 and it suits me perfectly, starts to make boost at 1200RPM and is full boost by 1800RPM. These turbos are very close in spec to the RB30ET units, with the exception of ceramic turbine wheel and possibly roller bearings in the VG30DET units.

As cooki said, if you want to buy a new one (not sure what your budget is), then the GT28 disco potato is the go for sure.

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:18 am
by tye1986
t3 off the rb 30 is fine on the td42 i have mine hiflowed as well makes 10 psi by 2000rpm there are very simliar to what axt use to use

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:10 am
by Jaffa
coxy321 wrote:I run a VG30DET turbo on my TD42 and it suits me perfectly, starts to make boost at 1200RPM and is full boost by 1800RPM. These turbos are very close in spec to the RB30ET units, with the exception of ceramic turbine wheel and possibly roller bearings in the VG30DET units.

As cooki said, if you want to buy a new one (not sure what your budget is), then the GT28 disco potato is the go for sure.
I ran a VG30DET turbo on a VL I used to have, bolted straight up to the exhaust manifold, so if the OP has got a manifold that suits the VL T3 then it should bolt on. Just make sure the boost is below 1bar otherwise you will end up with the exhaust wheel in you exhaust....... ask me how I know :D

Cost around $600 7-8 years ago from a jap importer.

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:02 am
by Brunsy
appologies, I assumed it was an RB30.
I dont know about needing boost in low range.........
VG30 turbo is very similar to VL t3, I have had one and believe it is a far better and more responsive turbo however they are getting long in the tooth and I dont believe you can rebuild the CHRA or core, so dont pay too much for one.

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:00 am
by coxy321
Brunsy wrote:appologies, I assumed it was an RB30.
I dont know about needing boost in low range.........
VG30 turbo is very similar to VL t3, I have had one and believe it is a far better and more responsive turbo however they are getting long in the tooth and I dont believe you can rebuild the CHRA or core, so dont pay too much for one.
VG30DET turbo's can be rebuilt and hi-flowed without any dramas. I was quoted $700 for a full rebuild, and $1300 for a rebuild with steel exhaust turbine and custom tuning to suit my own requirements (hi-flow, housings etc). Realistically though, you might as well buy a new unit for those prices. I think i will be going for a custom T3 when i eventually replace my current turbo.