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does anyone have a series 1 rockhopper t/case they want to sell. if so pm me with ya asking price

grey zook wrote:does anyone have a series 1 rockhopper t/case they want to sell. if so pm me with ya asking price

Spend the extra and get a series 3, you won't regret it.

S1's seem to break more and buying one second hand means no warranty

what effect will a s3have to the speedo if only running 31 tyres with standard diffs. and what revs would i be doin to at 100km/h?

I have a s3 with only 30" tyres

Hits about 4700rpm at 100k

But is is worth it off road

HRZOOK

car will be mostly used on road so highway driveability is a major factor. Dont want it revvin its head off at 100km/h
Lower revs = longer motor life

grey zook wrote:car will be mostly used on road so highway driveability is a major factor. Dont want it revvin its head off at 100km/h
Lower revs = longer motor life

Well shouldn't ya signature say "SUZUKI BUILT4CRUZIN"........

hrzook

biult4thrashing is a cary over from me feroza driving days and also email addy. pluss anyone thats seen the way i drive a car on or off road will agree. example feroza 3 engines in 3 years, both diffs, gearbox, hubs, bearings snapped shocks and bent springs.
No wonder i sold the thing and bought a sierra.

your revs will depend alot on your diff ratios and gearbox too remember

diffs are standard 90 wt. wanna run 31 tyres and still have a correct speedo and have the thing still driveable with out burning out the clutch in heavy trafic.

You have to remember HRZOOK has a coily and they have 3.9 diffs.
I have a 90 widetrack with standard 3.7 diffs and 31' inch Simex muds and series 3.
I reckon its ideal on road it revs at 3600rpm at 100k's and is very drivable and the power is always on tap as its in the power band all the time without over reving.

Your speedo won't be right either way.

grey zook wrote:diffs are standard 90 wt. wanna run 31 tyres and still have a correct speedo and have the thing still driveable with out burning out the clutch in heavy trafic.

as xtreem says your speedo won't be right. the crawler boxes only correct the gearing not the speedo which is still picked up off the rear driveshaft.

i've got the 4.16 low 1.6 hi box on my coily with the 3.909 diffs, the revs are 3700-3800 at a true 100km/h on 31" but the speedo reads 90km/h

you'll only get 3500-3600rpm with your 3.73 diffs at a true 100km/h

when i run my standard tyres (205's) on the series one box i get around 4200rpm at 100kmh (speedo is correct) and the performance is great - think a close ratio box!!!

lester

xtreem wrote:You have to remember HRZOOK has a coily and they have 3.9 diffs.
I have a 90 widetrack with standard 3.7 diffs and 31' inch Simex muds and series 3.
I reckon its ideal on road it revs at 3600rpm at 100k's and is very drivable and the power is always on tap as its in the power band all the time without over reving.

how big do the simex 31s measure? the comp centipedes measure heaps bigger than 31 i've heard...

grey zook wrote:diffs are standard 90 wt. wanna run 31 tyres and still have a correct speedo and have the thing still driveable with out burning out the clutch in heavy trafic.

Once you have 31's you will want bigger, its inevitable.

I currently can't really pull 5th with 34's and a s3 so I need to go lower again.

p.s. Did you come out to Gembrook with us???

stumped wrote:

xtreem wrote:You have to remember HRZOOK has a coily and they have 3.9 diffs.
I have a 90 widetrack with standard 3.7 diffs and 31' inch Simex muds and series 3.
I reckon its ideal on road it revs at 3600rpm at 100k's and is very drivable and the power is always on tap as its in the power band all the time without over reving.

how big do the simex 31s measure? the comp centipedes measure heaps bigger than 31 i've heard...

The simex 31"s are closer to 30" then 31" when measured , Dont tyres expand at high speed ??? I guess the manufucturers rate them to there expanded size

grey zook wrote:biult4thrashing is a cary over from me feroza driving days and also email addy. pluss anyone thats seen the way i drive a car on or off road will agree. example feroza 3 engines in 3 years, both diffs, gearbox, hubs, bearings snapped shocks and bent springs.
No wonder i sold the thing and bought a sierra.

Just giving you a friendly RAZ......

HRZOOK

yeh steve i was at one of the gembrook outings last year when the group got separated. I was driving the smokey feroza. was also there the day besty rolled his feroza.
WOO HOO ITS REGD
NOW ITS TIME TO FIT THE 31's

G'day All

We (M&M Engineering & Aussie Boys Toys) get 3 different sets of TCase reduction gears from Spidertrax in the USA. I have just order a 126% reduction for my zook. I can get:

83% low range & 12% high range; similar to series 1
126% low range & 18% high range;and
187% low range & 22% high range. similar to series 3.

If you or anyone else is interested in any of these give Matt at M&M Custom 4x4 Engineering. 02 45879811

Cheers

Mczook wrote:G'day All

We (M&M Engineering & Aussie Boys Toys) get 3 different sets of TCase reduction gears from Spidertrax in the USA. I have just order a 126% reduction for my zook. I can get:

83% low range & 12% high range; similar to series 1
126% low range & 18% high range;and
187% low range & 22% high range. similar to series 3.

If you or anyone else is interested in any of these give Matt at M&M Custom 4x4 Engineering. 02 45879811

Cheers

mczook are those gears produced by calmini or are the spidertrax own gears?
Just to be a pain what sort of cash would we be looking at?

G'day All

We (M&M Engineering & Aussie Boys Toys) get 3 different sets of TCase reduction gears from Spidertrax in the USA. I have just order a 126% reduction for my zook. I can get:

83% low range & 12% high range; similar to series 1
126% low range & 18% high range;and
187% low range & 22% high range. similar to series 3.

If you or anyone else is interested in any of these give Matt at M&M Custom 4x4 Engineering. 02 45879811

Cheers

Thats correct

Spidertrax have recently given up production of their own gears. They are now made by Calmini on their behalf.

Cheers

bigsteve wrote:

grey zook wrote:diffs are standard 90 wt. wanna run 31 tyres and still have a correct speedo and have the thing still driveable with out burning out the clutch in heavy trafic.

Once you have 31's you will want bigger, its inevitable.

I currently can't really pull 5th with 34's and a s3 so I need to go lower again.

p.s. Did you come out to Gembrook with us???

Why not add a bit of power ?? I could pull 35's in 5th with a S1 T/case
That way you are not reving the crapper out of the motor to move. I am all for correct gearing, but at some point you need to add a little power and torque as well.

love_mud wrote:

bigsteve wrote:

grey zook wrote:diffs are standard 90 wt. wanna run 31 tyres and still have a correct speedo and have the thing still driveable with out burning out the clutch in heavy trafic.

Once you have 31's you will want bigger, its inevitable.

I currently can't really pull 5th with 34's and a s3 so I need to go lower again.

p.s. Did you come out to Gembrook with us???

Why not add a bit of power ?? I could pull 35's in 5th with a S1 T/case
That way you are not reving the crapper out of the motor to move. I am all for correct gearing, but at some point you need to add a little power and torque as well.

Yes but you had a vit engine. I don't think it was the s1 that pushed those tyres.

I was more saying why not get the most gears you can currently buy becuase inevitably we all want bigger tyres.

simex centipedes, the comp style one do measure out to be bigger, Mine are new and measure to 32inch. the normal muds or Jungle trekkers may be smaller but the centipede is bigger.

and a little plug to finish. they are for sale, still have little hairy rubber things on the side lugs. done about 1000K's.
anyone?
ashley

germo wrote:simex centipedes, the comp style one do measure out to be bigger, Mine are new and measure to 32inch. the normal muds or Jungle trekkers may be smaller but the centipede is bigger.

and a little plug to finish. they are for sale, still have little hairy rubber things on the side lugs. done about 1000K's.
anyone?
ashley

Price ???

I second that what sort of monies do ya want?

he wants a grand for em.... i've seen these tyres, they're almost brand new... woulda bought em if i didn't have new BFGs

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Grimbo or Ashley

Are you already selling the simexs I sold you? Are you going bigger? If so let me know what you are looking for we should be able to give you a good price.

Cheers

yeah I'm selling them. $1000.

I need bigger rubber, I own a certain grey suzuki that was in 4wd monthly this month. want 35's for road, and am keen on 36inch simex for comp work, but not sure I can afford them, what price can you do them for? pm me. and also 35inch muds for the road pirce?

and don't tell me that I can't get that registered. its not that bad trust me.
ashley

Hi Germo or Ash

So you bought Mic's old zook heh. He was previously one of the M's in M&M Custom 4x4 Engineering. Now it is only Matt. Matt and I am now joining businesses together under the M&M banner. I will see what we can do tyres wise. Do you want new or happy with used?

PM and tell me what you actually got with the zook we might be able to help you out with the project as Matt is very familar with the zook.

Cheers