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Hey guys my name is Ben i bought the jabber of dean a short time ago.
I have taken it out half a dozen times now and I love it
the only thing that has gone wrong is the motor has lost all of it's power
and is now blowing alot of blue smoke...
So I was thinking about an engine conversion got any ideas???

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic170 ... 0-asc-.php

5.7 chev ?

just throw in a magna engine i done it its a bit of a ball breaker but its the cheapest and most reliable way...i looked into everything and i think this is the best way keep it origional or you will be forever spending money that you will never get back

jonnyjtop wrote:just throw in a magna engine i done it its a bit of a ball breaker but its the cheapest and most reliable way...i looked into everything and i think this is the best way keep it origional or you will be forever spending money that you will never get back

Do you know how non original it already is ??
There is very little that has not already been moded.

Yea not really thinking about puting another mitsi motor in was thinking ls1 , inected 5.0 or a 3.8 v6 commodore motor... i am thinking more about the 3.8 v6 as they are cheap and they are everywhere has anybody done or heard of these conversions being done? if so would be interested in how they went...

cheers Ben

Hi Ben, the Jabber deserves more power mate.
There are several permutations :-
- performance rebuild the 3.0V6 bored out to 3.2 (it had 102,000 when I bought it off an Asian dude who never took it off road)
- install 3.5/3.8V6 SOHC
- install some other non Mitsu motor
My choice was going to be a 3.5 SOHC or if I could find one a 3.8 SOHC.
I know the 3.0V6 box bolts directly up to the 3.5/3.8 block and you can still use the 3.0 clutch. Later on you can always upgrade to the 3.5 5sp and fit 3.15's to the larger t/case. With the 5.29's and a tweeked 3.8 it will turn the 35"s no probs.
The only change required is modified engine amounts plus the electricals.
Depends on your ultimate budget I guess.
Do you plan to convert the rear to full floaters ?
If you plan to offroad it hard you WILL break the 28 spline rear axles on the 35"s.

For what its worth I used to love my 3.5 SOHC turning 34s with stock ratios, if I could have afforded another one I would have gone down the same path.

The 3.5SOHC sounds like a good idea
The engine mounts and electrical is not a big problem at all
so i think i might start doing some homework on that.. I found out the problem tonight that is in cylnder 6 has zero comp
owell you get these things any wreckers you would recomend???
as this is the first pajero i hace eva had and know nothing about them
at all
what is it you think i should do to the rear end?
cause i am quiet hard on my 4x4s when i take them out
i always like to try and give it a good go as i did come very close to rolling it already cheers for the tips

If you could just get the auto 5spd bolted up to the 3.0 youd think you had alot of power. That lower first gear would be great for 4hweeling. Tho from what I hear itd be a pain to get hooked up

But the 3.8 would be hard to pass up also. Best of luck to you and the jabber

Don't bother with a Commodore 3.8. Don't like rev's, thirsty and love to run bearings in off road situations

hello ben and to all,

so ben rang me the other night and had said that the jabber wasnt running real good. would hit 60 and then run out of pep. The only time i can relate to this is when i had my shorty and one of the leads had fallen apart and was only running on 5 cylinders. It sounded the same over the phone, and seeing as i had never had a problem with the paj we didnt think it could be too much.

ben rang me last night and said hed done a comp test and no.6 had ZERO compression, could not get it to read whatsoever.

So i guess this is where hes at. What to do, what to do. I never had an issue with the engine in the jabber, its only got 189, 000kms on it so i never thought of swapping it over. Its definitely not the biggest powerhouse, but i found that it did what i needed aqnd returned pretty good figures considering~12-13L/100.

Now that the engine is rooted, i guess ben is looking for alternatives. He has said he can it fully rebuilt for $3,800, but i guess hes looking at options and best bang for buck.

If anyones got ideas, post em up, i suggested the 3.5 SOHC over the phone, and then came on here and saw that suggested. Bens previously had a LS1 in a VK so knows them pretty well, but i think was thinking the 3.8 commo engine for $$$. im pretty sure the rock art paj from tuff truck ran the commo engine, and then theres a couple rangie v8s, theres some other v8 paj on youtube, but yeh if it helps at all bens just trying to get the jabber going again and if possbile get more power for the same dollars...

cheers boys, and good luck ben,

dean

Yeah I still think the 3.8 SOHC is the go I'd be looking around for a wrecked NP so you can snaffle the donk, ancilliaries, wiring harness ecu etc. In fact you maybe able to score a front cut with the 5sp auto and larger t/case.
It will virtually be a bolt in except for the engine mounts and will still be uniquely Mitsi.
Any other non Mitsi conversion is going to cost a lot more paticularly mating it to the 5sp V5MT1.
It all depends on the budget and how much work you can do yourself and mates helping out.

there you go ben,

if theres one person id listen to, it would have to be frank

dean.

Ben get in there son :-

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Another option is the 3.8 V6 Mivec out of the NS/NT but I they could be hard to find and a bit exxy at the moment.

Thanks frank i rang that wreckers but they want to much money...
I have now left the jabber with my mate next door to my work
and we have come up with the idea to use the same motor rebuild
it and put a nice little snail on one side either t3 or t04 turbo not sure yet
cause we want it to make full boost from say 1300 to 4000 rpm
what do you think about that combo??? i think it should be interesting

http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showflat. ... =2&fpart=1

This may give you some ideas for a blower.
Some guys have discussed at length doing the 3.0 V6 DOHC twin turbo conversion from the Mitsi GTO (you know that two door thingy).
Would be pretty much a bolt in job as it's a 6G72 after all.
http://www.halfcuts.com.au/search.php?7 ... many-parts.
$3500 for the lot.

that sound really good I will have to give them a ring tomorow
and have a chat thanks for that mate it really does help out.
Thanks again champ

Yeah I think they pump out 210Kw and 450Nm from the factory

Bitsamissin wrote: Would be pretty much a bolt in job as it's a 6G72 after all.

One of the turbos is gona hit right on the steering column. I'm told you can take the turbos and swap them to clear. But yes itd be easy I think.

There like a 13sec quarter mile kinda car stock to........ :drool:

I rang charlie from halfcuts.com and he said he will take $2500 for the motor loom and ecu complete with turbos ect... so i think thats what is happening my mate and i are starting the job today by degreasing everything and getting ready to pull apart

Good work, put plenty of pictures on this thread!

We all love pic's!!!

i will take plenty of pics and post them im keen to know what it will
go like

oh goodie good. was thinkin bout doin the same conversion to my nj as im told my motor is slowly on its way. i will wait til your done with ur conversion to see how u go with it then pawn ur brain for all the info n work involved. happy trails my friend n keep us informed of the progress.