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In the latest 4wd Monthly there is Mick's Suzuki from M&M Engineering, and if you look at pics closely you can see he is using a panhard rod on the front diff, which is leaf sprung.

What are the advantages of this?

i havent seen it but i dare say if it his black zook that

he has had trouble with the leaves locating the diff centraly

Ie he has very soft springs with large tyres

so he has used the panard to help locate the diff and take sum stress

of his leaf springs


i could be completely wrong but in just thinking outloud

surly sum 1 will hace the CORRECT answer

slosh wrote:In the latest 4wd Monthly there is Mick's Suzuki from M&M Engineering, and if you look at pics closely you can see he is using a panhard rod on the front diff, which is leaf sprung.

What are the advantages of this?

the advantages would be that it would allow better lateral control of your axle. it will limit side to side axle travel.

if you run lons soft springs, and long flat shackles, you alsoo lose steering effectiveness with a crossover drag-link. a panhard will bring it back to being a lot more direct..

havent seen the pics but he isnt running superior shackles is he? this would cause sideways axle movement one would think.

G_loomis wrote:havent seen the pics but he isnt running superior shackles is he? this would cause sideways axle movement one would think.

no he's not using those dodgy shackles

The advantages are few but very important .. like being able to steer

If you run soft leaf springs with long shackles and loose bushings can get alot of movement side to side, even more so if the tyres are against a rock or something imoveable, you can try to steer into it to climb up onto it, but all that happens is the body/chassis gets pushed sideways in relation to the diff. With a panhard this wont happen.
The panhard will also help reduce bumpsteer on a leaf sprung vehicle by making the axle travel in a similar arc to the steering gear when articulating, as naturally a leaf sprung vehicle's suspension will want to travel strait up and down.

i was lookin at that pic

the new owner will be daily driving it

but with the angle that the panhard is VS the draglink
he would get a lot of bumpsteer id say
if i am thinkin on the right track

as you are meant to have the draglink almost paralle (SP?) and similar lenght with the panhard arnt ya? so they work on the same arc?

could be rong?

redzook wrote:i was lookin at that pic

the new owner will be daily driving it

but with the angle that the panhard is VS the draglink
he would get a lot of bumpsteer id say
if i am thinkin on the right track

as you are meant to have the draglink almost paralle (SP?) and similar lenght with the panhard arnt ya? so they work on the same arc?

could be rong?

Yeah the panhard and draglink idealy are as close as possible to the same length and angle

bj on roids wrote:

slosh wrote:In the latest 4wd Monthly there is Mick's Suzuki from M&M Engineering, and if you look at pics closely you can see he is using a panhard rod on the front diff, which is leaf sprung.

What are the advantages of this?

the advantages would be that it would allow better lateral control of your axle. it will limit side to side axle travel.

ie, by using a panhard rod he will get the benefits of using a panhard rod.

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Jason

chimpboy wrote:

bj on roids wrote:

slosh wrote:In the latest 4wd Monthly there is Mick's Suzuki from M&M Engineering, and if you look at pics closely you can see he is using a panhard rod on the front diff, which is leaf sprung.

What are the advantages of this?

the advantages would be that it would allow better lateral control of your axle. it will limit side to side axle travel.

ie, by using a panhard rod he will get the benefits of using a panhard rod.

!

Jason

I would have worded it like this: "By using a panhard rod, he will get the advantages of using a panhard rod"

Exactly, actually I was trying to be funny. I meant to type movement instead of travel, but anyways. It was meant in jest.

5 years at uni, I can spin up a 3500 word bullshit yarn piss easy! Quote from 8 sources, and 15 internet sites, and argue about anything. As for practical experience, what is that?

Jeep wrangler YJ have them.. they just make you steer better as the locate the axle better than leaves. Alot of the yanks use a telescoping tracbar.. you undo the collar and the trackbar can shorten or lengthen as need be.