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which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.

of late people will say no to TD's

Bilstein http://locktup4x4.com.au/universal-118/ ... hocks-152/

Koni or OME.

bogged wrote:Koni or OME.

another wanker comment.
he wants tough dog or rancho.can you read?

Id pick Rancho only because if seen toughdogs be worse than Ironman and haven't heard anything bad about rancho's
Hows Bogged a wanker for posting that more like a wanker commented on his post.
Looks to me Bogged just said he wouldn't put eather


Oh maybe Rancho's are good rockcrawlers not mud or 4x4track shocks

tufflux88 wrote:

bogged wrote:Koni or OME.

another wanker comment.
he wants tough dog or rancho.can you read?

Reading between the lines, I think the two post above yours are saying that TD and Ranchos have somewhat dubious reputations as quality products. Have a browse through this forum and read some reviews.

Out of the two I'd go Rancho. No real reason other than I've had them before and they worked ok.

tufflux88 wrote:

bogged wrote:Koni or OME.

another wanker comment.
he wants tough dog or rancho.can you read?

Sorry Mr Expert, I bow in your awesomeness... Still aching from being owned the other day sweety? Anyone with 1/2 a clue - which would exclude you and your awesome successful hardcore 4wd accessory making business with only SELECT customers, would know what it meant. Probalby a tad confusing for u.

luk3y wrote:which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.

thery are both the freakin same!

bogged wrote:

tufflux88 wrote:

bogged wrote:Koni or OME.

another wanker comment.
he wants tough dog or rancho.can you read?

Sorry Mr Expert, I bow in your awesomeness... Still aching from being owned the other day sweety? Anyone with 1/2 a clue - which would exclude you and your awesome successful hardcore 4wd accessory making business with only SELECT customers, would know what it meant. Probalby a tad confusing for u.

Sorry Bogged I own you
Don't you try calling him a wanker and clam it as I clearly did it first

The bigger question is why you think you want adjustable shocks. I've built cars with Ranchos and run Ranchos on my Gwagen, even dynoing them to prove they'd work, but really, the adjustability is a gimmick.

Honestly. I gave up on adjusting them after a while, nothing other than the settings I dynoed the shocks at to match the factory shock ratings worked.

As per Bogged, Koni, OME or maybe Bilstein.

Steve.

The bigger question is why you think you want adjustable shocks. I've built cars with Ranchos and run Ranchos on my Gwagen, even dynoing them to prove they'd work, but really, the adjustability is a gimmick.

Honestly. I gave up on adjusting them after a while, nothing other than the settings I dynoed the shocks at to match the factory shock ratings worked.

As per Bogged, Koni, OME or maybe Bilstein.

Steve.

Wow he was right when he said


Sorry Mr Expert, I bow in your awesomeness... Still aching from being owned the other day sweety? Anyone with 1/2 a clue - which would exclude you and your awesome successful hardcore 4wd accessory making business with only SELECT customers, would know what it meant. Probalby a tad confusing for

in my experience neither. as said above adjustables are a gimmik.

i've just gone from TD to EFS from suspension stuff. so far they are working for me, less fade more control IMO

if these ones dont work down the track i will be looking at something with remote reserviors in the belief of more capacity, less heat, less fade, less wear and tear.

carefull tufflux dosen't like anything mentioned but Ranchos or toughdog

I've had Toughdog shocks (were ok standard springs) on when brought
Ironcrap (who bagged toughdog to me)
,spicers springwork all fark it up
I now have EFS from Carrols spring work get it right so thats me.
was considering Rancho's but my understanding there one of the best rockcrawlers suspension wich to me is no good as i love mud

beinthemud wrote:[


carefull tufflux dosen't like anything mentioned but Ranchos or toughdog

i thought that owner operator call was a bit gruff. previous lovers tiff? must have missed that one.

beinthemud wrote:Sorry Bogged I own you
Don't you try calling him a wanker and clam it as I clearly did it first

Im new at this 4wd forum gig.

luk3y wrote:which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.

I would prefer a stick, as above choose Koni or the new OME, Bilstein aren't as good as they used to be either.

bogged wrote:

beinthemud wrote:Sorry Bogged I own you
Don't you try calling him a wanker and clam it as I clearly did it first

Im new at this 4wd forum gig.

Lesson learned then

beinthemud wrote:

bogged wrote:

beinthemud wrote:Sorry Bogged I own you
Don't you try calling him a wanker and clam it as I clearly did it first

Im new at this 4wd forum gig.

Lesson learned then

Damn noobs.
On topic, I wouldnt choose either as they both have quality issues, theres multiple threads on both, as posted above.
Id go with EFS as they are aussie made(I think), and they are higher quality.
Ive also heard that Raw4x4 is ok as well.
Ive only used EFS on my old 4runner and was really happy with it.
Good luck

DUDELUX wrote: Id go with EFS as they are aussie made

nope!

Apparently you can get an OME Sport for the 60 series now, but I dunno about using them with a 3 inch spring AND an extended shackle. I'm looking at the same for my 60 shortly.

TUFFRANGIE wrote:

luk3y wrote:which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.

I would prefer a stick, as above choose Koni or the new OME, Bilstein aren't as good as they used to be either.

How so?

And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.

joeblow wrote:

DUDELUX wrote: Id go with EFS as they are aussie made

nope!

Only the springs, shocks are made offshore like 99% of other brands.

chunks wrote:And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.

Do they have to be in the same price range to be same quality?? Or can they cost less and be almost as = quality, ending up better value overall?

bogged wrote:

chunks wrote:And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.

Do they have to be in the same price range to be same quality?? Or can they cost less and be almost as = quality, ending up better value overall?

No they don't have to be in the same price range, but generally you get what you pay for. I can't see how they are the same (or similar) quality to Koni or Bilstein, you only have to hold them both in your hands and compare the build quality.

chunks wrote:

bogged wrote:

chunks wrote:And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.

Do they have to be in the same price range to be same quality?? Or can they cost less and be almost as = quality, ending up better value overall?

No they don't have to be in the same price range, but generally you get what you pay for. I can't see how they are the same (or similar) quality to Koni or Bilstein, you only have to hold them both in your hands and compare the build quality.

Go and try a set... may suprise yourself... just replaced 82's on my GU with OME's. had OME's on the GQ which replaced rancho...

my honnest opinion is that adjustability is pure wank factor, i had toughdogs for 2 years, i now have 3 toughdogs and one in 2 pieces thanks to the piston missing a tac weld so it unscrewed itself and seperated.

i have also heard bad storys of rancho, and seeing as how iirc they come from the same factory, id be steering clear of both, i have heard of ranchos splitting at eyelets etc.

so i would be leaning towards efs elite, koni 88's or if your on a tighter budget ironman foamcell shocks, they cant be beaten for pure value for money

chunks wrote:

TUFFRANGIE wrote:

luk3y wrote:which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.

I would prefer a stick, as above choose Koni or the new OME, Bilstein aren't as good as they used to be either.

How so?

And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.

A fair few of OME tend to be KYB

Really? which OME?

My understanding was that OME are made by Tenneco Automotive.

Steve.