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Im looking at getting a snatch strap or 2, Ive done a search and had a look at a few shops, but Im unsure which one is correct for me.
Strap widths, lengths, SWLs, brands,
I found this on ebay....
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Heavy-Duty-Snatc ... 2a04576e5d
Is it any good??
Is there brands I should stay clear of??
I know from searching that the Tow2go straps from SCA are good but no longer sold from there, and that Maxitrac are good as well but I havent been in to a repco yet to look at them.
Any advise??

Thanks

when i buy a strap i just check the load rating and length suits me - after that its all about keeping it clean, and if it shows signs of wear then its time to be replaced. I usually give my old straps to people who are new to driving offroad - as they generally dont have any recovery gear at all.

When it comes to snatch straps you'll usually find that most of the NAME brand ones are of good standard.
Terrain tamer have good value for money straps.
Steer away from anything un named or unrated.

Also i have generally found that most straps that fail are due to neglect or damage, so it's not always wise to shell out BIG dollars for 3 letter brands as they are just as susceptable to damage or neglect.

Your snatch strap shouldn't be considered a long term investment. Something you learn from experience that's not written on the packaging is that snatch straps have a snatch life, escpecially when used for serious recoveries. For this reason i buy a new one every couple of years and destroy the old one before it becomes a hazard rather than after it does.

Good luck.

The Two2Go can still be purchased from Supercheap, I've got 2 I got within last 12 months.

https://www.juststraps.com.au/Default.asp?
bought a kit of these guys a while back. good service, aust made, cheapish only used snatch strap a few times but use the winch extention all the time and hasnt failed me yet.
ill be buying these again

Either get a Just Straps manufactured one or an ARB one. Both are quality items and won't let you down.

I have a maxitrax snatch, it's been brilliant, pulled out countless vehicles and still going strong. Care is a big part of it i think, IE not covering it in mud then leaving it in the back of the ute till the next time you go wheeling.

Ive read in a few different articles coloured straps don't have the strength as the same rated strap in a plain, loses some of it's integrity during the dying process apparently.

I have had a Black Snake strap for about 8 years



http://www.pacflotech.com.au/products.html

Smooth stretch (20%) assists recovery

Abrasion and cut resistant rubber cover

More durable than fabric snatch straps

Proven safer than fabric snatch straps

Oil, water mud and dust proof

Cleaning is not required after use

Easy to install with oval shaped eyelets

Individual serial number for trace-ability

Comes complete with packing strap

Extensive range of other sizes available
Made in Australia

I haven't used it in 12 months but it is as good as the day I bought it, the only down side to it, is storage, being round it doesn't roll up as compact as a flat strap, but I just wind it around my spare wheel (in case I need to pull any one else out )
Peter.

Narrowscopeofreality wrote:I have a maxitrax snatch, it's been brilliant, pulled out countless vehicles and still going strong. Care is a big part of it i think, IE not covering it in mud then leaving it in the back of the ute till the next time you go wheeling.

Ive read in a few different articles coloured straps don't have the strength as the same rated strap in a plain, loses some of it's integrity during the dying process apparently.

Dying may change the load rating but the strap is normally made of a size to compensate.

Also straps used a few times loose their spring and should not be relied on for a proper snatch action.

Bazzle

Second vote for the Black Snake .

Mates have been running them for years, yet to see one break.

But like Droopy said, they are a pain to roll up

Ok some realy good info there, thankyou for all of that. Are there any brands I should stay away from?? Apart from the no-name ones.
Are the Ironman ones good quality??

droopypete wrote:I have had a Black Snake strap for about 8 years



http://www.pacflotech.com.au/products.html

Smooth stretch (20%) assists recovery

Abrasion and cut resistant rubber cover

More durable than fabric snatch straps

Proven safer than fabric snatch straps

Oil, water mud and dust proof

Cleaning is not required after use

Easy to install with oval shaped eyelets

Individual serial number for trace-ability

Comes complete with packing strap

Extensive range of other sizes available
Made in Australia

I haven't used it in 12 months but it is as good as the day I bought it, the only down side to it, is storage, being round it doesn't roll up as compact as a flat strap, but I just wind it around my spare wheel (in case I need to pull any one else out )
Peter.

I've asked about these before. Few people say they are vagginas to get into the tow reciever for recovering other penii.. easy or hard? the end of it looks rather large...

It is harder than a flat Strap.

Not impossible though

I don't like like to use the pin in the receiver for recovery (I am happy for anyone else to do so) so I can't comment on that Bruce.
Peter.

ps where are my O/L stickers? I sent you the 6 pack

Never use the pin inside the receiver.
It can bend. It is meant to be used in double shear with a rceiver in it.
Also edges of hole can damage a strap under load.
Use a reeiver socket with a D shackle mount on it.

Bazzle

DUDELUX wrote:Ok some realy good info there, thankyou for all of that. Are there any brands I should stay away from?? Apart from the no-name ones.
Are the Ironman ones good quality??

a company called ridge rider sold from all SCA stores , is a waste of money. 8000lb orange ones
used it in two different occasions both RECOVERING 4wds stalled upon full stretch.

also bent 10,000lb recovery hook from the 4wd being recovered,

complaind to SCA got full money back, they also complained to the company, they done some research and it turns out that the straps only had max 4% elasticity. NOT REAL GOOD

please stay away from these straps

cheers rob

Nah, Ive got 2x 8000kg Ironman straps on the way.

BERT-86 wrote:

DUDELUX wrote:Ok some realy good info there, thankyou for all of that. Are there any brands I should stay away from?? Apart from the no-name ones.
Are the Ironman ones good quality??

a company called ridge rider sold from all SCA stores , is a waste of money. 8000lb orange ones
used it in two different occasions both RECOVERING 4wds stalled upon full stretch.

also bent 10,000lb recovery hook from the 4wd being recovered,

complaind to SCA got full money back, they also complained to the company, they done some research and it turns out that the straps only had max 4% elasticity. NOT REAL GOOD

please stay away from these straps

cheers rob

I've got one of these and it's so harsh we use it as a flat tow strap. It has SFA stretch in it.

Replaced it with a black rat item and it's plush as. Used it on everything from sierras to GQ's and it always gets the job done.

Hi all i bought my first strap 27 years ago of TJM its red and back then i didnt know about washing it and keeping it clean and up to this day its never been washed, and has done many recovery's and got used for towing any thing and everything { naughty naugthy] but thats how it was back then. The guy back then and i'm petty sure his still alive told me that it would out last my cruiser, i as a young fellow thought yeah right this old fart is pulling my leg well bugger me my cruiser lasted 22years and i've still got my strap. I might contact TJM and see if this strap can be test just to see how stuffed it is.....Thats if it is stuffed. They dont make em like they used too.

bazzle wrote:Never use the pin inside the receiver.
It can bend. It is meant to be used in double shear with a rceiver in it.
Also edges of hole can damage a strap under load.
Use a reeiver socket with a D shackle mount on it.

Bazzle

If you could bend the pin from snatching some one i would be very impressed. I cant see that happening..

johno88 wrote:

bazzle wrote:Never use the pin inside the receiver.
It can bend. It is meant to be used in double shear with a rceiver in it.
Also edges of hole can damage a strap under load.
Use a reeiver socket with a D shackle mount on it.

Bazzle

If you could bend the pin from snatching some one i would be very impressed. I cant see that happening..

You would be very suprised then....

Most straps on the market should do the job... the problems seem to be with the operator in most cases

start small and work up to a big pull...if it's needed. I've used $40 snatch straps and $80 snatch straps. They have both work perfectly fine. Big part of a successful recovery is communication and preperation before the attempt.

If you are sitting on the diffs becasue you blasted 20m into a boghole then you know you are looking at a hard recovery. Get the shovel out...find some rocks do some track building and then start the snatch process. While you are mucking around with the shovel it wil also give you time to assess the whole situation and may even be enough time to think clearly enough to perform a safe and effective recovery using your gear within is design parameters.

tow2go, cant beat it.

will out perform the arb ones everytime.

UNLUCKY wrote:will out perform the arb ones everytime.

Really? What does this mean?

Won't break when the ARB strap will? Every time?

Will successfully recover when the ARB strap won't? Every time?

You like tow2go? Fair enough.

Why? Try again - your last attempt is garbage.

lol reeeeowww

now now ladies they are just tow straps.

I got a blackrat one with self captive ends.

Had it for 2 years.... never used it

-Scott- wrote:

UNLUCKY wrote:will out perform the arb ones everytime.

Really? What does this mean?

Won't break when the ARB strap will? Every time?

Will successfully recover when the ARB strap won't? Every time?

You like tow2go? Fair enough.

Why? Try again - your last attempt is garbage.

don't agree with "everytime" but maybe most times.
It out performed the ARB in the 4WDA test though. And certainly outperforms it in cost!

I use a tow2go but it needs replacing, they don't sell them anymore at my local supercheap. Anyone know where else sells them?

mike_nofx wrote:

-Scott- wrote:

UNLUCKY wrote:will out perform the arb ones everytime.

Really? What does this mean?

Won't break when the ARB strap will? Every time?

Will successfully recover when the ARB strap won't? Every time?

You like tow2go? Fair enough.

Why? Try again - your last attempt is garbage.

don't agree with "everytime" but maybe most times.
It out performed the ARB in the 4WDA test though. And certainly outperforms it in cost!

OK, now we're getting somewhere. A tow2go strap is cheaper than the ARB product, and, in one test, had a higher breaking limit. This is certainly relevant, and a good reason to buy the tow2go - if you can find one.

But "most time"? I still don't understand what this means.

I have an ARB strap - have had for quite a few years, and I'm not sure how many times I've used it. Not that often, because I'm a hardcore web wheeler.

How would a tow2go strap have made any difference to me? How would it perform better?

I buy any that are rated ,I dont care as long as there cheap
Allmost ran out once never again

Z()LTAN wrote:lol reeeeowww

now now ladies they are just tow straps.

I got a blackrat one with self captive ends.

Had it for 2 years.... never used it

that just means you've never been 4wding. web wheeler

I've got one of those orange super cheap ones ridge ryder and it does work OK but I agree it doesn't have alot of spring in it. I use it as more of a tow rope, we rarely get stuck enough to need a genuine snatch.