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opposite lock xrox custom front bars.legal?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:49 pm
by 83-mud-lux
looking at getting a front bar for the hilux and i know custom ones are illegal but if it comes from the shop i thought they might have to be legal.i love the look of these and are a fair price.

if not is there anyway you can have a custom front bar that is legal?
some advice would be great thanks guys.

cheers..smiley..

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:01 pm
by grimbo
custom ones aren't necessarily illegal just needs to meet legal requirements. Speak to a reputable fabricator and you should be fine

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:28 pm
by DUDELUX
Boof had one that was legal, ask him what the requirements are, or what he had to change/alter to have it legal.

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:37 pm
by big lux
go on QLD DOT site and download there pdf files on all vehicle standards it has all the info u need on legality of everything, If you have they time read as much of it as you can. I used part of it to avoid a defect once, theres a bit in there about aftermarket suspension arms not needing adr stamps as long as bla bla bla.

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:52 pm
by jsttry
Maybe call Outback Accessories Australia. Last i heard they were meant to be airbag compatible.

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:04 pm
by joeblow
this is made by a 'shop'.....and is very 'illegal'.



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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:10 pm
by DUDELUX
jsttry wrote:Maybe call Outback Accessories Australia. Last i heard they were meant to be airbag compatible.
Yeah but old luxes dont have airbags.

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:18 pm
by RED60
joeblow wrote:this is made by a 'shop'.....and is very 'illegal'.



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Brutal....

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:27 pm
by big lux
after just doing abit of search as im waiting on a highmount one of these to get made. the biggest poblems seems to be in the ADRs about pedestrian impact and not being angled as to push some one under as to over the oncoming car. theres also all the lighting rules to go with it.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:38 am
by Guy
joeblow wrote:this is made by a 'shop'.....and is very 'illegal'.



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Not to mention ugly ...

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:57 am
by ludacris
The opposite Lock ones are legal and airbag compatable.

Cris

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:54 am
by bogged
love_mud wrote:
joeblow wrote:this is made by a 'shop'.....and is very 'illegal'.



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Not to mention ugly ...
x lovemudteen.. that thing makes Eastcost BB's look delightful!

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:48 pm
by chimpboy
heh, good grief, it's Homer Simpson's bull bar.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:28 pm
by alien
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Mines custom made and its 100% legal...
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as long as it deflects away from the car you're pretty much fine.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:51 pm
by booflux
ludacris wrote:The opposite Lock ones are legal, airbag compatable, and ugly as sin.

Cris
Fixed :D

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:47 pm
by joeblow
alien wrote:Image

Mines custom made and its 100% legal...
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as long as it deflects away from the car you're pretty much fine.
your recovery eyes would be considered 'protrusions'.

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:21 pm
by big lux
anyone got a pic of the xrox bar in question fitted to a gq ive seen the bar but never on anything.

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:00 am
by Gearhead
ive got a picture here but not sure how to post it. can anyone help[/list]

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:45 am
by jsttry
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:14 am
by big lux
the gu one looks ok but the gq one looks a bit weird like its to small or sumthing.

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:28 am
by alien
joeblow wrote:
your recovery eyes would be considered 'protrusions'.
it passed engineering and inspecting here and no one mentioned that... plus the eyes are part of the mounting system of the bar to the chassis =)

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:45 am
by nastytroll
alien wrote:
joeblow wrote:
your recovery eyes would be considered 'protrusions'.
it passed engineering and inspecting here and no one mentioned that... plus the eyes are part of the mounting system of the bar to the chassis =)
You would get pinned for it here in Qld.

IMO the XROX bars look cheap and nasty, but are not cheap. I cannot see the design providing any more protection then a coke can with cable ties.

Someone with some real data feel free to correct me but I think a slight hit on the wing will bend the mounting plate and more then likely damage the chassis rail.

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:52 am
by joeblow
nastytroll wrote:
alien wrote:
joeblow wrote:
your recovery eyes would be considered 'protrusions'.
it passed engineering and inspecting here and no one mentioned that... plus the eyes are part of the mounting system of the bar to the chassis =)
You would get pinned for it here in Qld.

IMO the XROX bars look cheap and nasty, but are not cheap. I cannot see the design providing any more protection then a coke can with cable ties.

Someone with some real data feel free to correct me but I think a slight hit on the wing will bend the mounting plate and more then likely damage the chassis rail.
X2 nasty.

it states on thier web page that they provide excellent impact protection, but i doubt this very much. nothing much will happen to the tubes, instead all the load will be on the three mounting bolts for each wing, it will bend easily enough. on some of the photos they have it appears that the top tube angles forward, and as far as i know this does not meet regulatory/ design rules.


and yes, those recovery eyes would get pinged here in vic also.

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:54 pm
by Marshwa
I have an Xroc bar on my lux and yes they are legal. I believe You can have a custom bar on the lux's and keep them legal, i think it could be done if you use the original crush selves and/or the mounting brackets from like an arb bar or original bar maybe

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:03 pm
by MUMSRIG
Check my thread here for more info on the XROX bar... http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic195 ... light=xrox

I have the very first one fitted to a 120series as it was designed off our Prado.

I was after a bar that looked more aggressive for MUMSRIG and wasn't what everyone else had.

I like to be different and love the look ofthe XROX. I looked at their design and manufacturing process and was very impressed with Outback Accessories professionalism and their service was 2nd to none!

Best of all the bar is engineered to be legal and is also independantly tested in SA for airbag compliance. Best of both worlds.

Yeah, I have spotties protruding etc so realistically I could get done be the cops if they wanted to ping me, but hey...that's my choice! The bar itself, is legal!

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Mitch

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:14 pm
by ajsr
scared of the dark???

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:23 pm
by joeblow
MUMSRIG wrote:Check my thread here for more info on the XROX bar... http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic195 ... light=xrox

I have the very first one fitted to a 120series as it was designed off our Prado.

I was after a bar that looked more aggressive for MUMSRIG and wasn't what everyone else had.

I like to be different and love the look ofthe XROX. I looked at their design and manufacturing process and was very impressed with Outback Accessories professionalism and their service was 2nd to none!

Best of all the bar is engineered to be legal and is also independantly tested in SA for airbag compliance. Best of both worlds.

Yeah, I have spotties protruding etc so realistically I could get done be the cops if they wanted to ping me, but hey...that's my choice! The bar itself, is legal!

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Mitch
but how do you explain the top tube not meeting current regulations? it tilts forward, when it MUST tilt back.

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:45 pm
by MUMSRIG
joeblow wrote:
but how do you explain the top tube not meeting current regulations? it tilts forward, when it MUST tilt back.
One word.... Engineered.... ;)

Anything can be made legal as long as an engineer is willing to sign it off.

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:25 pm
by chimpboy
MUMSRIG wrote:
joeblow wrote:
but how do you explain the top tube not meeting current regulations? it tilts forward, when it MUST tilt back.
One word.... Engineered.... ;)

Anything can be made legal as long as an engineer is willing to sign it off.
lol if you say so.

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:01 pm
by dano80
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This one looks heaps better than the GU/GQ ones :?

Cheers, Dano.