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keeping coils in my GQ ....

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:24 pm
by 5inchgq
i'm looking to fix one end of my rear coils (so they don't fall out at full flex) in my LWB gq i'm sure people here have done something similar and was just wanting some ideas re which end is better to fix and ways ppl have done this...........

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:33 pm
by SuperiorEngineering
We retain the bottom and use 100mm cones in the top.

here is a link for the coil drop out cones.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... cts_id=847

link for the rear coil retainers.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... ts_id=4066


This is now standard in every kit we sell 4 inch and above. ;)

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:49 am
by sudso
Why not just run the right size shocks?

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:57 am
by mike_nofx
Flexy coils?

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:13 pm
by SuperiorEngineering
sudso wrote:Why not just run the right size shocks?

More guys than you would think want larger shocks for more wheel travel.

We sell these with every 3,4,5,6 inch kit with no problems..

Also as a suspension sags the shocks will not get any shorter so you then have the problem of the coil becoming loose as the coil has a lower free height.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:19 pm
by SuperiorEngineering
mike_nofx wrote:Flexy coils?

Not many flexy coils have proven themselves on the market, they have their place and so do conventional coils, different kits, different applications,different coils, different shocks, different manufacturers, so on and so on.

I have heard negative and positive feedback from "flexy coils" but yes that is another option, but if he has the coils already then it is the more expensive option that may not be any better.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:59 pm
by craz3d
Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:04 pm
by beinthemud
SuperiorEngineering wrote:We retain the bottom and use 100mm cones in the top.

here is a link for the coil drop out cones.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... cts_id=847

link for the rear coil retainers.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... ts_id=4066


This is now standard in every kit we sell 4 inch and above. ;)

or you could just make your own

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:34 pm
by sudso
craz3d wrote:Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.
You better tell all the vehicle manufacturers then that they've been doing it wrong for decades.
True the shock should never reach full compression as the force of the weight of the vehicle could kill it very quickly but there's nowhere near the same force from a drooping axle and most shocks have inbuilt bump stops for that, well should have anyway.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:31 am
by steel
craz3d wrote:Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.
This statement is plain wrong, there is nothing wrong with a shock limiting the extension of a suspensions travel.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:23 am
by HeathGQ
steel wrote:
craz3d wrote:Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.
This statement is plain wrong, there is nothing wrong with a shock limiting the extension of a suspensions travel.
mine Pro-Comps have been hitting the extension limit for 4 years now, and they're fine. I think you'll find it's when you hit the top compression of the shock that its bad.

Retain top and bottom, or use coil drop outs at the top as per Superior Engineering's (Mick) post. I'll do this on my next set-up, but for now I'm happy with what I got.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:46 am
by 5inchgq
i'm running 3" toughdogs in the rear at the moment but taking them out , i scored a 5" set of pro comps that i was going to give a run hense needing to retain the coils as the tough dogs used to stop just before the coils got too loose .....

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:56 pm
by beinthemud
steel wrote:
craz3d wrote:Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.
This statement is plain wrong, there is nothing wrong with a shock limiting the extension of a suspensions travel.
Ageed its full compression thats the problem