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i have been noticing there are a few different aprons on the FJ40s. at first glance they look the same but up close they are totaly different.

i have a new grill but it only fits an old style apron. any one have an old style one sitting around spare?

Are you just talking about the headlight surrounds being different or the entire front panels? I know there's 2 different surrounds but not aware of front panels being different.

There's actually three different front panels.
Very early ones up to about 1971 i think, had the park lights in the lower section. Then the park lights were move to the guards. Both these panels had the round ended head light surround and the grill was interchangeable. Then in about 78/79 they changed to the panel with square ended head light surround. This panel is a completely different pressing to the early ones with different grill mounts and head light surround mountings

Also the later ones with the square surrounds have wider headlight spacing, apparently this was done to comply with design regulations..

uted1 wrote:There's actually three different front panels.
Very early ones up to about 1971 i think, had the park lights in the lower section. Then the park lights were move to the guards. Both these panels had the round ended head light surround and the grill was interchangeable. Then in about 78/79 they changed to the panel with square ended head light surround. This panel is a completely different pressing to the early ones with different grill mounts and head light surround mountings

Ahh yep, I do recall seeing those differences now.

someone should get proactive and put up an example of each?
mines a bitsa, fibreglass goodness.

Will do after

The late type are double skinned at the bottom and rust out, but, unless I'm very much mistaken, my 1980 HJ 45 has the same design front panel but it's single skinned at the bottom, it has not rusted through.

OOPS, sorry about the big pic.

Ok as promised, some pics

1968 FJ40. Grill extends up into opening in bonnet and provision for park lights in bottom


inside


Grill. Badge is not right. Originally would have had a cast alloy badge. If any one has one in real good nik, would be interested in buying it


1976 hj45. Note the rubber donut on the bottom left where the head light surround screwed on. These held the surround off the apron a fraction. Later aprons had brackets spot welded on, and the head light surround bolted to them


1984 bj42. I measured from center to center of the head lights and there is 30mm difference to the 1976 head light spacing


Inside. Grill is just a simple square of expanded mesh


Will get a pick of the 76 grill. but am pretty sure it's basically the same as the 68 grill

And this is an fj25 apron. Pre 40 series. Mid 1950s to early 1960s


Also found these threads on mud
http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-te ... ences.html

http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-te ... rts-3.html

excellent!! so i have the 1984 apron and need to swap it with the older 76 style. as per those excellent picture examples.

the reason is that i bought a custom billet grill form the US that a guy had made for his 40 over there (then he had a few extra made). in the US they stoped making fj40s in about 78ish. so he has only these grills for the older apron.

BIG ZOOK wrote:excellent!! so i have the 1984 apron and need to swap it with the older 76 style. as per those excellent picture examples.

the reason is that i bought a custom billet grill form the US that a guy had made for his 40 over there (then he had a few extra made). in the US they stoped making fj40s in about 78ish. so he has only these grills for the older apron.

is the 1984 apron for sale?

BIG ZOOK wrote:the reason is that i bought a custom billet grill form the US that a guy had made for his 40 over there (then he had a few extra made).

Got any pics of the billet grill ? Sounds

the new grill will be here any day now. ill take a couple of pics then. ill keep th 1984 one in case i need it for resale

any pics yet?

nope..... still waiting for the "internation" postal system to do its job. its been 5 weeks now.. cant be much longer can it?

hi guys. i am doing the front apron swap now. does anyone out there have a front apron for sale or spare. i need the same one thats in the 4th picture down from the top

the grill went walkabout because i was a tight ass and paid for standard water freight from US. its been 7 weeks so i had to get another sent by UPS and its here on fri. i'll put a pic up then

Athol if you have a few bucks all4x4 at Kotara nsw have new fibreglass ones.
and often have spare 2nd hand glass ones.
but if you want original iron its abit trickier to find in decent condition.

-Last time i was at Hunter4wd at lemon tree passage they had a couple of 40s in bits. but this was abit ago.

so while we are talking front aprons.
does anyone know who made the front one on my truck with the landcruiser name? a few people have asked me and i wasnt too sure?
ive guessed ozeast but its unclear.

i dunno who made it as mine has no markings on it but i got the same one for sale if anyone wants it

thanks for the tip Rock Star

The Headlight Surround Panel With Land Cruiser imprinted into it was probably made by me (if it is a fibreglass one)Fibreglass Replacement Panels
I moulded it off a very early Steel one. Mick

It is a fibreglass one.
in that case, i take my hat off! AWESOME WORK!
you should make a few more alot of people have commented on it in the past.

yeah thanks Dirty Rock Star , I have had them for years. It is on our new website ( which we are still building)www.frp.com.au look under product list, search Toyota, 40/45 series & it will come up (part no TRP06)
I might have to take a new pic of that one as the word Land Cruiser doesnt stand out in the pic.
Note to self---Replace with new pic next week. Mick

and here it is finaly. looks freakin awsome!!

and casue they are so so hot

BIG ZOOK wrote:and casue they are so so hot

Ray185 and I were only saying on msn the other week, what ever happened to the zook thread of yours with all your hot chick pics!



Love the grill too!

My avatar is workin overtime. Beleeee DAT!!

The grill is ok I guess.

grill? what grill?

yeah i was concentrating on the grill too !

the grill in red in the centre would match your paintwork heaps better BIG ZOOK.
the chrome does bring the bling though. nice one!

how long until twisty gets one.....

that old thread be about somewhere, zook forum, search my name i only posted in that whole forum like 3 times....

edit, its GONE!
there is no god!