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Widetrack/Narrowtrack?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:46 pm
by Ferwoaza
How do you tell, visibly between a 1.3L wt and nt??? Is it the wt has fiberglass flares and the nt has rubber? Always confused me this has...heck..does the 1.3L even come in nt after say 1986+?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:51 pm
by redzook
i think all wide tracks have the wider flares (they are not fiberglass as mine are plastic an the newer 1's are metal)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:53 pm
by camskizook
widetracks came out in the middle of 1988...

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 2:01 pm
by Ferwoaza
So a 1.3L zook from 86 would definetly be narrow track...hmm..this is almost as complicated as Feroza models hehe

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 2:07 pm
by camskizook
YUP.....and u were right about the flares as well...

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 2:09 pm
by greg
you are all correct. the WT has the metal flares. and if you look underneith the car, you can see that the spring hangers / shackles are set further out than the chasis rails - on the NT they are directly underneith

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 2:14 pm
by Ferwoaza
Okay, finally getting my head around this now :)

One last thing..did they make narrow tracks after 1988?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 2:22 pm
by redzook
dont think they did
:?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 2:55 pm
by grimbo
I think you'll find the Stockman tray top LWB were NT up until the present as to where the Maruti Indian versions

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:59 pm
by cattzooks
Current Stockmans are Maruti's. They are made in India. I know they make a wide track Maruti but I'm not sure if they send them here.

As for the flares my 88 model has plastic. Most WT have metal flares. The 88 was a cross over hybrid. It still has the NT model number SJ50 where as other WT's are SJ70 and a coily is an SJ80. Then to add to the confusion the 1Litre is a SJ410 and the 1.3 NT is also a SJ413.


Maruti Link
http://www.marutigypsy.com/home.htm

Model details link (look under models)
http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~catts/cattzook/

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 8:24 pm
by zukin
ive got a 89 widetrack and my flares are metal picking the difference is pretty easy the nt is considerably narrower then the WT

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 8:37 am
by stephen
I have a maruty 96 and was running it's wide track diffs for a while they are just wide 1 litre narrow track's centre's 4.1's, exactly same width as the Jap wide track's. They bent like Bannana's

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 9:12 am
by grimbo
zukin wrote:ive got a 89 widetrack and my flares are metal picking the difference is pretty easy the nt is considerably narrower then the WT


You'll find the there is no noticable difference in body shapes between the two. The flares are different. Some NT came with small rubber flares whilstthe WT had 2" ish wide metal (usually) flares.

NT springs are mounted under the frame whilst WT are mount outboard

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 9:51 am
by Liam
Mine's wide track spec in the front and narrow track in the back- where's my prize.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 10:54 am
by grimbo
Liam when are we going to see some pics and get some specs of yours :?:

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 2:46 pm
by Guy
Apparently Liams monster will be at Wandin ..

Guy

Frame differences?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:11 pm
by N*A*M
Okay... I did do a search but didn't find what I was looking for. But I know somebody will know the answer instantly.

Can I swap my wide track chassis for a narrow track 1.3L chassis? Would the drivetrain and body fit back on?

I'm thinking the answer is yes but I wanted clarification. Does anybody have leads on a decent, registerable (not written off), short wheel base chassis? I will buy it from you or trade you for my mint chassis after the conversion.

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:19 pm
by greg
The body would - we just did that with mine - put a NT1.3 body onto a WT1.3 chassis - no worries...

only issues were different handbrake setup i think... and all the messy wiring that existed on the NT body (which was a bit older of course)...

Not sure about running gear though.

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:25 pm
by greg
I thought about this a bit more NAM... wide track running gear and narrow track chassis would have to work okay because they only connect to each other at the following places:

1. springs - you would have to convert the chassis to widetrack, or the axels or narrow track

2. x-fer - the x-fer case mounts are interchangeable so no problems

3. steering box to axels- perhaps this is different - not sure - but you would need the steering components from the widetrack to make it work.

4. steering (steering wheel to box) - this is fine - worked on my setup.

5. brakes - assuming both are 1.3 (which they are) - no prob - this worked fine on my setup.

6. handbrake - have to decide which one to use - nt or wt.

should work no problems i reckon nam...

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:29 pm
by N*A*M
thanks for the break down greg :cool:

i think bigsteve has got something i can use too so it may not be a big deal afterall

springs mounts don't matter since going to links
steering box needs to be changed anyway... maybe an fj60 box???
everything else should all be workable

greg wrote:I thought about this a bit more NAM... wide track running gear and narrow track chassis would have to work okay because they only connect to each other at the following places:

1. springs - you would have to convert the chassis to widetrack, or the axels or narrow track

2. x-fer - the x-fer case mounts are interchangeable so no problems

3. steering box to axels- perhaps this is different - not sure - but you would need the steering components from the widetrack to make it work.

4. steering (steering wheel to box) - this is fine - worked on my setup.

5. brakes - assuming both are 1.3 (which they are) - no prob - this worked fine on my setup.

6. handbrake - have to decide which one to use - nt or wt.

should work no problems i reckon nam...