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85 and the 90 patrol

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:33 pm
by rev4x4
hi all can some one tell me if the 85 mq and the 90 gq patrol running gear is the same or not and what can i use of the 85 on to the 90 patrol need to know asap please :?: can someone help thanks

Re: 85 and the 90 patrol

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:01 pm
by festy
rev4x4 wrote:hi all can some one tell me if the 85 mq and the 90 gq patrol running gear is the same or not
no, they're very different.
and what can i use of the 85 on to the 90 patrol need to know asap please :?: can someone help thanks
umm... wheels, window winders, not much else?
I think the bonnet might swap over, and the rear windows, but mechanically there's not much that is common between the two.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:50 pm
by Patroler
Yea, mechanically theyre pretty much totally different, an MQ rear diff centre can fit a GQ front housing with a little work - this could be handy if you had a mq lsd or locker.
Body wise the bonnet is the same apart from where the hinges bolt on, doors are interchangeable, windscreen is the same.

Basically the mechanichals/chassis are totally different, and the body was a minor update.
Whereas GQ-GU was a totally different body and almost identical mechanicals.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:51 pm
by nerida67
to much difference to list
i think the question to u would be
why would u ask this question ???

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:33 pm
by ozy1
from memory even the bonnet is different, only in its mounts on to the hinge thou,

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:40 pm
by nerida67
bonnets different ???
mq/mk have only one windscreen squirter
gq bonnets have two windscreen squirters
i have a mk shorty with a gq bonnet on it
just a quick run down
chassis are different
diffs are different
mq/mk diffs have off centred diffs
gq diffs have centred diffs
mq/mk leaf spring suspension
gq coil
gq commercial (utes)have leaf spring as well
but not all
doors are different(do bolt up, thou)
mq/mk doors have quarter windows
gqs dont have quarter windows
front guards are different
grills are different
windscreens are the same
rear (tailgates)are different
mq/mk have top window,bottom tailgate (wagons and shorties)
mq/mk have barn doors(LWB wagons,actually called vans ???)
gq wagons have barn doors
tail lights different between mq,mk,and gq
anything else , theres more

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:02 pm
by coxy321
nerida67 wrote:bonnets different ???
mq/mk have only one windscreen squirter
gq bonnets have two windscreen squirters
Both MK's i've owned had two.
nerida67 wrote:mq/mk diffs have off centred diffs
gq diffs have centred diffs
GQ front is not centred - drivers side is short side.
nerida67 wrote:mq/mk leaf spring suspension
Some earlier GQ utes were leaf front and rear.
nerida67 wrote:doors are different(do bolt up, thou)
mq/mk doors have quarter windows
gqs dont have quarter windows
Some earlier GQ's (like mine) have quarter windows.
nerida67 wrote:anything else , theres more
Plenty more - but i'm sure you have better to do with your time. :lol:

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:11 pm
by nerida67
coxy,
well spotted
i did say SOME gq utes were leaf spring
manufacturers have been known to put older model parts on the newer models
especially regarding commercials or base models
MAYBE the 3 mqs ,2 mks and gq i have here are all wrong
but honestly who could guarantee if anything has been changed in the last 10-25 years
maybe i wont do a general difference list
MAYBE ,u could put one up
itll be nice to see your difference

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:23 pm
by coxy321
nerida67 wrote:coxy,
well spotted
i did say SOME gq utes were leaf spring
manufacturers have been known to put older model parts on the newer models
especially regarding commercials or base models
MAYBE the 3 mqs ,2 mks and gq i have here are all wrong
but honestly who could guarantee if anything has been changed in the last 10-25 years
maybe i wont do a general difference list
MAYBE ,u could put one up
itll be nice to see your difference
I'm not having a dig mate, just putting it out there so nobody gets confused.

Its been done once four times on here already (GQ/MK/MQ comparo), and the general concensus was that (as you said), there are lots of recycled parts and parts used from other models, and that there was no "definate" yes or no's with some of the factory options and variations. I think there might have even been a 1993 GQ on here with 1/4 windows IIRC.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:44 pm
by nerida67
thats cool,
u just get a few keyboard warriors thats all
i was just giving a more general sorta first look comparison
but yeah the differences can be a little or a lot
havent heard from the op, regarding the great question

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:07 am
by rev4x4
thank you for your help all , but y i was asking is this was i could pick 1 up an mq wagon for $400.00 i have a gq that is y




and you nerida67
does that help you out
:finger: :bad-words:


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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:51 pm

to much difference to list
i think the question to u would be
why would u ask this question ???

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:11 am
by chimpboy
rev4x4 wrote:thank you for your help all , but y i was asking is this was i could pick 1 up an mq wagon for $400.00 i have a gq that is y
So the answer is that if you are looking at it as a possible parts donor, it's only worth it for a couple of body panels nothing else.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:48 am
by nerida67
rev 4x4,
maybe if u dont ask the dumb questions ???
u wont get the dumb replies ???
next time i wont be bothered helping people out
there are actually some people that ask fair dinkum questions
and appreciate assistance
does it seem your not one of those ???
or did i just take your reply the wrong way ???