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What would you use: 1.3, 1.6 or 2.0 V6

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:13 pm
by Kitika
G'day just looking at a project car and I can get either of the above mentioned motors with it.
I have plenty of 1.3 gear so heaps of spares etc so don't need to buy in any other parts and know the ins and outs of them or the guy has a 1.6 and a 2.0l V6 sitting there. What's the power difference between the 1.6 and 2L and what gearbox would you use behind them? All has to fit in a NT lwb chassis and turn 33's (i have 6.5 transfer).
I was thinking of staying with the 1.3 as I won't really have to change anything to fit it or spend extra money on it to get it going but if the v6 is a good price I may go for it. Any fitted a v6 vitara motor to a sierra? Wiring hard to get around?

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:16 pm
by joeblow

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:51 pm
by mrRocky
turbo 1.3 injected

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:10 pm
by Kitika
Unless I get a gearbox added into the deal then I don't think i'll go the V6 as don't want to spend to much money on it. Did the sump end up clearing the front diff on it?

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:39 pm
by alien
1600 EFI is plenty of power for a sierra and not much extra weight - plus its way easier to get over the pits (if thats a concern?).

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:29 am
by Kitika
Nah probably stay offroad only. Just a play toy really might look at building it up for comps as it is a blank canvas really.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:09 am
by alien
if its a toy i'd go all out =) v6.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:33 am
by Kitika
I'm guessing it'll be a fairly painful process to get the divorced sierra transfer in behind the vitara gearbox? Unless there is maybe an adapter that can go on the rear output of the gearbox?

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:46 am
by GRPABT1
mrRocky wrote:turbo 1.3 injected
Agreed, turbo GTi motor, cheap, easy and more power than you'll ever need.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:56 am
by Remydog05
J20A & auto

http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?pag ... &Itemid=53

http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?pag ... &Itemid=53

Or Im sure Joeblow could make you a kit you could it in Aus then.

Or Make your own mounts etc.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:48 pm
by Ben_Sierra
GRPABT1 wrote:
mrRocky wrote:turbo 1.3 injected
Agreed, turbo GTi motor, cheap, easy and more power than you'll ever need.
And none of it in the low revs where you need it for crawling...

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:33 pm
by joeblow
Ben_Sierra wrote:
GRPABT1 wrote:
mrRocky wrote:turbo 1.3 injected
Agreed, turbo GTi motor, cheap, easy and more power than you'll ever need.
And none of it in the low revs where you need it for crawling...
i think that would be more of a gearing/torque issue. there are plenty of 1.3 8 valves doing that stuff quite well, and i know they have less low down power than a gti motor.

don't get me wrong, i actually detest the gti motor (done a few, not impressed) as for bang-for-buck and reliabilaty the 1.6 or h20 are far better.

whatever motor you decide on try to keep it stock and avoid adding not-needed components like turbos etc. get the gearing right, keep the engine stock and you will have a setup that lasts for years with only simple maintanance.

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:33 am
by GRPABT1
For once I agree with joe, keep it simple. Only reason i'd turbo mine would be for on road power to tow a trailer or just for the sheer fun of it. Really that kind of power isn't needed, my stock gti motor will hold 110km/hr in top gear easily enough with 31 inch pedes, 6.5 gears, lifted and added weight. An injected 1.6 makes about the same power so either will do fine. Off road I'm never lacking power with the gearing.

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:27 am
by supazuk
this cruses at 110kph with a 1.6 8V and 6.5 gears
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:18 pm
by GRPABT1
^ case in point

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:46 pm
by Kitika
Looks like I can't get it now... Just don't have the funds and "I need to focus on the projects I already have" or something along those lines.
Would have been good as it was a brand new galvinised open top jeep replica body on a LWB chassis so had clearance for the 33's without any mods. If it's not gone by next week i'll have to try and reconvince the finance department!