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Using your front low mount winch as a diff winch....?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:39 pm
by Screwy
Gday guys,

I want to work out a way to rig up the Warn Low mount on my gq SWB to be used to tuck the front down on hill climbs if needed

Currently its in a standard GQ position in a Cheesy front bar. Now i can obviously just wrap it down on the the diff from the front but im hesitant to do this due to the winch being so far forward of the diff and possible pulling my front diff towards the front of the car rather then just down......

Has anyone tried to do this? ive thought about running the cable out the back of the winch rather then the front, under the radiator and using some kind of tube slide bar under the motor to change the force direction to up and down....

I can put a small diff winch under the bonnet somewhere i think but id like to use my existing winch if possible....

ideas or pics of ppl who have done this?

cheers

Screwy

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:43 pm
by RUFF
Grow some balls :finger:

You dont need a winch on the front axle.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:00 pm
by oldmate
RUFF wrote:Grow some balls :finger:

You dont need a winch on the front axle.
x2.

but I'm sure people have used those little boat trailer winches to do that job.

they have also used them to raise the front 18 inches :finger:

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:31 pm
by Tojo
RUFF wrote:Grow some balls :finger:

You dont need a winch on the front axle.
he doesn't NEED a winch on the front axle, he just wants one because that's what all the cool people have! :D

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:04 pm
by hi_luxmad
you could still run the winch cable out the front then weld an eyelet on top of the diff and run the cable over a length of tube (youd obviously have to fab it up) directly above the diff with a roller of some sort

if your in newcastle i can do it for about $100

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:52 am
by Screwy
Im aware i dont NEED a winch on the front on a well setup comp rig. On my lifted daily SWB BOAT, i need some insurance on a steep hill climb / rock step, and even if i dont use it, being able to keep the weight of the motor lower to the ground on a couple of the very big steps may prove beneficial ;)

screwy

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:41 am
by bazzle
I would recommend you use the winch to anchor you to a tree etc when you climb those big hills to act as insurance not to pull the axle down. I doubt it would make that much diff dynamically.

Bazzle

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:48 am
by oldmate
The part I never understood was that when you winch down the front you loose ground clearance. So why not just run lower springs full time?

Perhaps a better alternative would be to raise the rear when going up hills, or the front when going down.

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:38 am
by Jaffa
Just a thought and I might be completely wrong, but just say your going up hill with the winch pulling the front down and you end up in a situation where you are close to rolling, unloading the front diff to use the winch to recover yourself may end up causing a roll (diff drops/body raises, centre on gravity changes/rises)

Wouldn't it be easier to use use a small secondary winch and have the ability to raise or lower the front end, and use your main winch at the same time?

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:39 am
by Chucky
oldmate wrote:
RUFF wrote:Grow some balls :finger:

You dont need a winch on the front axle.
x2.

but I'm sure people have used those little boat trailer winches to do that job.

they have also used them to raise the front 18 inches :finger:
Tried finding that thread and can't.
What was the name of it again?

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:36 am
by Guy
oldmate wrote:The part I never understood was that when you winch down the front you loose ground clearance. So why not just run lower springs full time?

Perhaps a better alternative would be to raise the rear when going up hills, or the front when going down.
How do you loose ground clearance ? are you making the tyres smaller ?
You may loose aproach angle or breakover angle .. but not not clearance under the lowest part of the vehicle.

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:27 pm
by RUFF
hi_luxmad wrote:if your in newcastle i can do it for about $100
You want to charge him $100 for 3 foot of tube and 10min welding? Thats shitloads to much. I know a bloke that can do it for half that.

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:30 pm
by RUFF
Screwy wrote:Im aware i dont NEED a winch on the front on a well setup comp rig. On my lifted daily SWB BOAT, i need some insurance on a steep hill climb / rock step, and even if i dont use it, being able to keep the weight of the motor lower to the ground on a couple of the very big steps may prove beneficial ;)

screwy
I missed that you started this thread Screwy. I was wrong you need a winch. PUSSY :finger:

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:28 pm
by Screwy
RUFF wrote:
Screwy wrote:Im aware i dont NEED a winch on the front on a well setup comp rig. On my lifted daily SWB BOAT, i need some insurance on a steep hill climb / rock step, and even if i dont use it, being able to keep the weight of the motor lower to the ground on a couple of the very big steps may prove beneficial ;)

screwy
I missed that you started this thread Screwy. I was wrong you need a winch. PUSSY :finger:
Cheers for that HATER :finger:

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:54 pm
by 5inchgq
RUFF wrote:
hi_luxmad wrote:if your in newcastle i can do it for about $100
You want to charge him $100 for 3 foot of tube and 10min welding? Thats shitloads to much. I know a bloke that can do it for half that.
that's all good and well but will he be wearing teal slacks whilst doing the job??????????

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:32 pm
by hi_luxmad
ill wear whatever you want big boy

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:22 pm
by Jcas24
the old teal slacks gag is still going lol.

I saw a truck at TT10 that had an eyelet & shackle on the front housing, then the winch cable is hooked on the front bar, cable comes though the fairlead as usual and the first loop goes down to the front diff. easy to unhook when not required.