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Anyone ever used the $50 eBay Birfields / CV's ?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:16 pm
by SteelArt
Just wondering if anyone has ever used the eBay Birfields you see for $50 ?

I need some new ones for my 70 series Cruiser.

I can get

eBay - $50
Repco - $102.50
Terrain Tammer - $110
Toyota - $512

I tried Longfields but they don't do axles to suit and won't warrant their CV's without their axles.

Any other options / suggestions ?

It runs a turbo 3B with lockers on 35's so not a huge power plant

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:28 pm
by vk7ybi
40 series super set wont work?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:35 pm
by SteelArt
vk7ybi wrote:40 series super set wont work?
What is a 40 series super set ?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:42 pm
by vk7ybi
http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/prod ... 52d60.html

Apparently a 40 series super set will work in a 70 housing, as theyre near the same width..

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:45 pm
by SteelArt
vk7ybi wrote:http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/prod ... 52d60.html

Apparently a 40 series super set will work in a 70 housing, as theyre near the same width..
Ah yeah no I asked about them. I have factory locker so need a long spline on the inner axles which they don't make.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:27 pm
by bubs
how many stock cvs do you need, i'll do some 2nd hand genuine NTN's for $50ea have about 10 here

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:26 am
by hillbilliywheelchair
dirty 30's???????? ring chris and tash at loktup their grate to deal with

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:26 am
by mick80
are they really worth it?
my 80 is twin locked with 35s and i have just done my second cv in 6 years
cheers mick
ps the longfeilds

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:18 pm
by popeyehj60
the cheap ones are Chinese quality and You'll shatter them first trip out.

I went through 3 Chinese ones before i wised up and bought Japanese made Cv's.

Im only running 33s on a 60 series with a stock 2h
and when i shattered them it was on easy hills when i wasn't lifting wheel or close to spinning wheels.

Since going to Japanese ones i haven't done a cv and I've done tougher tracks and given them more abuse

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:55 pm
by hulsty
Have you been having CV problems? You can fit Longfields to standard axels. Since you have a difficult to obtain inner axel though I would prefer to use genuine stock CV's and have them as a "fuse"

Or get custom axels made to suit longs with the longer spline

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:14 pm
by hulsty
Longfield do long spline axels to suit cable lockers.

http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/prod ... -AXLE.html

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:31 pm
by badger
I havent used them but i have sold a nissan diff to a guy that did and had to cut the knuckle off to get it back out. It was 2 hours old and he was running 32's

I have also seen a few 80 series ones die very fast.

FWIW id use a 300k old full time 80 cv over a new ebay cv

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:53 am
by bj on roids
Get the longfields, you can get the axles.

Even the long spline ones.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:46 am
by STUMPY
popeyehj60 wrote:the cheap ones are Chinese quality and You'll shatter them first trip out.

I went through 3 Chinese ones before i wised up and bought Japanese made Cv's.

Im only running 33s on a 60 series with a stock 2h
and when i shattered them it was on easy hills when i wasn't lifting wheel or close to spinning wheels.

Since going to Japanese ones i haven't done a cv and I've done tougher tracks and given them more abuse
I have a 50 dollar CV turning 35's and a turbo'ed 80 series for the past year, driving the vehicle hard without any issues

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:52 am
by brad 93hilux
Tried running the cheap repco cv's and kept having them sieze up, although they covered them under warranty it happened twice and then i never installed the 2nd replacement... only a cheap spare...

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:38 pm
by 80's_delirious
STUMPY wrote:
popeyehj60 wrote:the cheap ones are Chinese quality and You'll shatter them first trip out.

I went through 3 Chinese ones before i wised up and bought Japanese made Cv's.

Im only running 33s on a 60 series with a stock 2h
and when i shattered them it was on easy hills when i wasn't lifting wheel or close to spinning wheels.

Since going to Japanese ones i haven't done a cv and I've done tougher tracks and given them more abuse
I have a 50 dollar CV turning 35's and a turbo'ed 80 series for the past year, driving the vehicle hard without any issues
I had the same, when the $50 dollar CV blew, it took out around $350-400 worth of other parts.

Go for NTN or other Japanese made CV

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:00 pm
by cranes
Longfeilds where used in the powerful 4x4 truck and lasted all weekend

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:26 pm
by SteelArt
bj on roids wrote:Get the longfields, you can get the axles.

Even the long spline ones.
Are you sure ?


I sent Longfield and email and :

hi

only the birfields will fit. they are the 27 spline and they are $205.00 each. the inner hub gears are $130.00 for a pair and the shipping is about $140.00

thanks

terra
info@longfieldsuperaxles.com


I would have thought they would fit based on that fact they do a long spline but Terra tells me they won't.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:44 pm
by hulsty
Did you ask about 70 series stuff? If you did they will have no idea. Ask about late 40 series parts. As previously posted here is the link to the long spline inner shaft for a 40 series

http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/prod ... -AXLE.html

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:12 pm
by SteelArt
are they the same as Hilux ones ?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:52 pm
by Ruffy
Cryogenically treated jap ones. about 400 from memory.

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:30 am
by hillbilliywheelchair

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:26 am
by hulsty
SteelArt wrote:are they the same as Hilux ones ?
no axels are different

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:27 pm
by SteelArt
hulsty wrote:
SteelArt wrote:are they the same as Hilux ones ?
no axels are different
Yeah but are the CV's the same ?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:31 pm
by SteelArt
Yeah but that don't work for factory lockers.

From: <support@offroadgear.com.au>

Hi,
just as I hit send, I remembered about the long spline inner
required for the e-lockers. So the Dirty 30's won't suit.

....

Cheers

Chris

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:54 pm
by hulsty
SteelArt wrote:
hulsty wrote:
SteelArt wrote:are they the same as Hilux ones ?
no axels are different
Yeah but are the CV's the same ?
:roll:

I feel like we are all hitting our heads against a brick wall. We have given you all the answers you need, now go do something about it.

If you are having CV problems get longs, if not, get factory new/used c'vs and be done with it.

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:31 pm
by matt.mcinnes
hulsty wrote:
SteelArt wrote:
hulsty wrote:
SteelArt wrote:are they the same as Hilux ones ?
no axels are different
Yeah but are the CV's the same ?
:roll:

I feel like we are all hitting our heads against a brick wall. We have given you all the answers you need, now go do something about it.

If you are having CV problems get longs, if not, get factory new/used c'vs and be done with it.
30 spline super set in my 40 no issues, apart from Marin broke the long side axle at Vic Winch 09. It had been in there 5 Vic Winches an Ateco and an Alpine, not to mention countless hard trips. Bobby Long still covered it with warrenty.

Short answer here is 99% of the time you get waht you pay for.

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:00 pm
by SteelArt
hulsty wrote:
SteelArt wrote:
hulsty wrote:
SteelArt wrote:are they the same as Hilux ones ?
no axels are different
Yeah but are the CV's the same ?
:roll:

I feel like we are all hitting our heads against a brick wall. We have given you all the answers you need, now go do something about it.

If you are having CV problems get longs, if not, get factory new/used c'vs and be done with it.
The originla question was has anyone actually used eBay CV's and yes that has been answered.

Then people keep telling me to use Longfields or Dirty 30's and I have spoken to both Chris at Locked Up and Terra who both tell me I can not get their product with axles to suit my front diff.

I don't see how any of that is hitting heads agaisnt brick wall, unless you are telling me you know better than those who sell the product you are telling me to buy ?

I have longfields in my 40 series without issue but if they don't make them to suit the 70 series diff with cable locker than it really isn't an option then is it ?


So back to the last question are the Hilux CV's the same as the Cruiser ones ?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:14 pm
by matt.mcinnes
Longs do a long spline to suit cable lockers listed for the 40 series a link that was posted before.

Pretty sure the 70 and 40 series are the same length axle. The reason longs do one for the 40 that never came with cable lockes is the yanks rob them from the 60/62 series and use them in the 40, they just don't have the 70 there.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:47 am
by bj on roids
SteelArt wrote:are they the same as Hilux ones ?

What? Axles or birfs. longside axle and birf is same as 60 series. Short side axle different. Birf is same.